Study: Long covid as common in those who had and didn't have covid.

[Amity Island]

The point prevalence of PCC at 6 months was 48.5% in the SARS-CoV-2–positive group and 47.1% in the control group (risk difference, 1.5%; 95% CI, −10.2% to 13.1%)


The persistent symptoms and disability that characterize PCC (long covid) are associated with factors other than SARS-CoV-2 infection, including psychosocial factors.

Prevalence and Characteristics Associated With PCC Among Adolescents and Young Adults

This cohort study of Norwegian adolescents and young adults with mild SARS-CoV-2 infections examines the prevalence of post–COVID-19 condition 6 months after infection.

jamanetwork.com

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

Are they basically saying ‘long covid’ isn’t a thing?

Or that the symptoms of long Covid (which are a thing) can also be brought about by other psycho-social and environmental factors?

Seems to be suggesting that there’s a difficulty with the definition/diagnostic criteria of the condition referred to as PCC?

“When applying the World Health Organization case definition of PCC, prevalence at 6 months was 49%, but was also comparably high (47%) in the control group. PCC was not associated with biological markers specific to viral infection, but with initial symptom severity and psychosocial factors.”

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

So yeah, basically it’s just questioning the definition in this age group (young people 12-25) who had mild case of covid.

“These findings suggest that persistent symptoms in this age group are related to factors other than SARS-CoV-2 infection, and therefore question the usefulness of the WHO case definition of PCC.”

 

[Amity Island]

So yeah, basically it’s just questioning the definition in this age group (young people 12-25) who had mild case of covid.

“These findings suggest that persistent symptoms in this age group are related to factors other than SARS-CoV-2 infection, and therefore question the usefulness of the WHO case definition of PCC.”

Yes, I think this could equally be applied to the definitions for covid. Symptoms for covid are so varied could be anything else too.

• Fever or chills
• Cough
• Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
• Fatigue
• Muscle or body aches
• Headache
• New loss of taste or smell
• Sore throat
• Congestion or runny nose
• Nausea or vomiting
• Diarrhea

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

I think this could equally be applied to the definitions for covid. Symptoms for covid are so varied could be anything else too.

It was really tricky early in the pandemic wasn’t it!

I found it really helpful when we got access to the lateral flow tests to confirm sarscov2 and differentiate from just a regular cough/cold.

 

[Amity Island]

It was really tricky early in the pandemic wasn’t it!

I found it really helpful when we got access to the lateral flow tests to confirm sarscov2 and differentiate from just a regular cough/cold.

As Fauci confirmed, tests using over 35 cycles are no good and testing populations with over 35 cycles is what they did. Cycles of 20 and under are reliable.

If we were using tests over 35 cycles, how can any of these symptoms be attributed to covid19?

• Fever or chills
• Cough
• Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
• Fatigue
• Muscle or body aches
• Headache
• New loss of taste or smell
• Sore throat
• Congestion or runny nose
• Nausea or vomiting
• Diarrhea

Some of the "reliable" and "official" claims made during the pandemic were just outrageous.

Here's one here.

"The largest part of the people who get this disease are asymptomatic, so they don't know that they've got it, so if you're only testing people with symptoms, you're missing the majority of people."

Quote "The largest part of the people who get this disease are asymptomatic." Absolutely ridiculous! How can one have had covid19 and not have any symptoms?

Quote "if you're only testing people with symptoms, you're missing the majority of people." Absolutely ridiculous! Testing those with symptoms is the correct method and use. As Fauci also confirmed, it's symptomatic people that drive pandemics, not those without symptoms.

Blair LBC exclusive: Test everyone to beat Covid crisis

Former prime minister Tony Blair has told LBC in an exclusive interview that the way to defeat coronavirus is through testing as many people as possible whether or not they have symptoms.

www.lbc.co.uk

 

[Bruce Stephens]

So yeah, basically it’s just questioning the definition in this age group (young people 12-25) who had mild case of covid.

Yes, other twitter comments have mentioned that. And if you're looking for something you expect to be ~1% (which seems plausible for that age group) looking at a few hundred people isn't going to work. Add in the possible difficulties of determining who's been infected (it's generally accepted that infection is often asymptomatic and younger people are less likely to produce antibodies) and the study doesn't show much.