Spikes after no carbs?

[Mini-Vicki]

Hi all,

I wondered f you have any helpful tips for me?
I've recently changed from My usual breakfast of porridge, to low carb, usually eggs.
I'm getting BG spikes after having a zero carb breakfast, and I'm not sure why.
For example, this morning my waking BG was 7.9, (higher than ideal but I hypo'd before bed so suspect the jelly babies kept it up through the night)
Anyway, for breakfast I had 3 eggs with spinach, feta cheese cooked with some butter. I gave myself 1iu at the time (I'm 1iu to bring down by 3mmol). 2 hours later I'm 10.9
I've just taken a correction, but I'm confused as to why this keeps happening.
I take 20iu Lantus at nighttime, and this seems to hold by BG steady through the rest of the day, (I have low carb throughout the day too).
Any ideas anyone?
Morning phenomenon maybe?

Thanks guys,
Vic xx

 

[Annette]

The best thing to do is to basal test to see if its you or your reaction to food (or any kind).
When you get up, unless your bg is way high (ie, for the purposes, 7.9 isnt way high, so can be left for a few hours), dont correct, dont eat anything at all, test every couple of hours, and see if your bgs still go up.

If they do, its either Dawn Phenomenon/Feet hit the floor, or you maybe need to look at splitting your lantus (or going onto levemir which is apparently more conducive to being split) as your basal isnt doing what you need it to.

If they dont, then you my well have a reaction to the cheese or the eggs - some people need insulin to cope with certain kinds of protein - bacon for me, other people on here I am fairly certain need to bolus for eggs.

First off - test that basal!

 

[Mini-Vicki]

Thanks Annette, I'll give that a go and see what happens 🙂
I've been thinking about asking my DSN to change me onto Levemir anyway, so maybe this will be more evidence as to why I should change.

Vic xx

 

[Robin]

What Annette said!
I find I need 2 units when I have two scrambled eggs, partly for the eggs, partly for the Dawn Phenomenon, and partly to cover a slight gap in the Lantus which I take at midday. This is as a result of testing, and trial and error. (or Trial and Improvement, as my children were taught to call it at school. Sounds more encouraging!)

 

[HOBIE]

The title does not make sense. Can you imagine a machine that you did not put fuel in ? A car that ran on fresh air ? It could be cabs digested from previous food. If not you have cracked a science problem 😉

 

[TheClockworkDodo]

I had to give up eggs, Vicki, because they caused my bgl to go up so much - I was having to bolus more for 2 eggs than I would for a plate of white pasta, and my bgl was still going up to about 14 after eating them. And this was in the evening and the usual number of hours after my usual lunch, so not dawn phenomenon or anything else still circulating.

There was a thread about weird things making people's bgls go up, they all seemed to be things people had a slight intolerance to, so we decided that I was just unable to tolerate eggs.