Sorry more BG help

[Jo121]

So second day with monitor had lunch a what I though relative low carb soup and 1 slice of seeded bread. Levels sky high 6.1 before lunch and 11.2 after! How do I know if it's the bread or the soup? I had 1 slice of the same bread yesterday with scrambled egg and levels were fine. I'm so confused. I can tell that it's high as I'm feeling dizzy.

I'm desperately searching for some convenience food for work lunches that I can just bang in microwave and eat and not spend hours chopping - thought I'd found it with soup

 

[Peely66]

I'm Type 1 so tend to not comment on Type 2 stuff as I'm learning about Type 2 on here in the same way you are...it's a slightly different beast to Type 1.
Could the eggs have slowed down the absorption the day before?
6.1 to 11.2 is only a 4.1 rise. I've noticed that Type 2s say no more than a rise of 3 is ideal...so you're not far off.
Sounds like you're doing fine to me...for what that is worth!

 

[Jo121]

I'm Type 1 so tend to not comment on Type 2 stuff as I'm learning about Type 2 on here in the same way you are...it's a slightly different beast to Type 1.
Could the eggs have slowed down the absorption the day before?
6.1 to 11.2 is only a 4.1 rise. I've noticed that Type 2s say no more than a rise of 3 is ideal...so you're not far off.
Sounds like you're doing fine to me...for what that is worth!

Thank you. 11 obviously doesnt agree with me though I'm dizzy so knew it was high

 

[Docb]

Could easily be the soup, especially if it is a tinned soup from the supermarket. When you are next in the supermarket, have a look on the soup tin labels for the carbohydrate content. You will be amazed at the variability. You may even find two versions of the same soup with very different carb content.

Easy way is to base what soup you buy on type and carb content, and not just on type. Pick the lowest carb content. I found some of the ALDI own brand soups were much lower in carbohydrate than the "big" names. It's what I did in the early days before I got into soup making.

By the way, 6.1 is not sky high, its perfectly OK. 11.2 after a meal is higher than desirable and looking to cut down on the carbs in the meal is a good idea.

 

[Jo121]

Could easily be the soup, especially if it is a tinned soup from the supermarket. When you are next in the supermarket, have a look on the soup tin labels for the carbohydrate content. You will be amazed at the variability. You may even find two versions of the same soup with very different carb content.

Easy way is to base what soup you buy on type and carb content, and not just on type. Pick the lowest carb content. I found some of the ALDI own brand soups were much lower in carbohydrate than the "big" names. It's what I did in the early days before I got into soup making.

By the way, 6.1 is not sky high, its perfectly OK. 11.2 after a meal is higher than desirable and looking to cut down on the carbs in the meal is a good idea.

Thanks it was the 11 number I was saying was high.
The soup had low carb less than 10g in 100g so maybe it was the bread and the egg somehow helped this yesterday

 

[Leadinglights]

It depends on how much of the soup you had, half a tin would probably have been about 200g plus your slice of bread could easily have been 30g carb for your meal so that combination was not too good.
Soups are brilliant and very easy to make, I am always surprised how a few veg can make a huge pot of soup. Courgette, celery and mangetout make a nice soup, just cook in water with a stock cube and some pepper then I blitz with a hand blender and add some sour cream or cream. It can be frozen for later.

 

[Peely66]

Thank you. 11 obviously doesnt agree with me though I'm dizzy so knew it was high

Really? I must have all the sensitivity of a breeze block. I can be 15 and not feel any different.

 

[RirisR]

Why dont you roast a chicken or chicken pieces, salad, coleslaw, low carb crackers from Lidl different cheeses
home made soup is easy to do, crustless quiche, pickles, liv life bread from Waitrose is about 3.4 g a slice
only small though and seeded quite tasty lots of lunch ideas's boiled eggs
ham slices and so on, fancy a treat Asda eclairs are a low option at 8g
Birds Eye do a curry topped fish dish which is around 9 grams some ideas to mull over

 

[Jo121]

It depends on how much of the soup you had, half a tin would probably have been about 200g plus your slice of bread could easily have been 30g carb for your meal so that combination was not too good.
Soups are brilliant and very easy to make, I am always surprised how a few veg can make a huge pot of soup. Courgette, celery and mangetout make a nice soup, just cook in water with a stock cube and some pepper then I blitz with a hand blender and add some sour cream or cream. It can be frozen for later.

Thanks I get this but in my very busy life even that's time I just dont have. If I do that it's time away from my kids spent cooking or late nights when I should be sleeping. I work full time so my aim in life is to make the most of my time with the kids.The meal was 23g of carbs. The soup just 9.3g for the portion I had which was 300g(all weighed out). If that's a high carb meal then think I'll be suicidal now as there is nothing convenient quick and filling that doesnt have carbs in. I'm finding I either eat carbs around 130g max a day or to get lower carbs I'm basically eating veg only and getting about 800calories in a day- not sure what's more dangerous tbh as I cant sustain much more weight loss. I'm really not sure I can do this as I'm not been akward I simply dont like food that isnt carbs apart from vegetables so all I'm eating is plates of veg. I cant believe my life has come to not being able to eat a small slice of bread from a 400g loaf :-(. Thanks for the advice is does make sense just need to magic some more hours in the day

 

[Jo121]

Really? I must have all the sensitivity of a breeze block. I can be 15 and not feel any different.

Tbh whenever I eat I feel awful it may be the metformin

 

[Jo121]

Why dont you roast a chicken or chicken pieces, salad, coleslaw, low carb crackers from Lidl different cheeses
home made soup is easy to do, crustless quiche, pickles, liv life bread from Waitrose is about 3.4 g a slice
only small though and seeded quite tasty lots of lunch ideas's boiled eggs
ham slices and so on, fancy a treat Asda eclairs are a low option at 8g
Birds Eye do a curry topped fish dish which is around 9 grams some ideas to mull over

Thank you

 

[Jo121]

Thank you

These are great ideas but again l time. I normally buy my lunch from a local meal prep company. All low fat but alot of pastas, noodles rice dishes etc so no good now. I'm used to just grabbing those out the freezer and going to work. I just feel guilt cos all this extra time I've to spend in the supermarket buying fresh stuff or prepping my food is time away from my kids

 

[BlueArmy]

ask to switch to the slow release version,
made me feel loads better..

Something quick as a go to - can’t beat an omelette, well, you have to in order to make it, but you get what I mean!

 

[BlueArmy]

I have kids and a full time 60 hour a week plus job so I get what your saying. The way to look at it is - 10 mins a day sorting your food (you only need about 10 recipes in the bag some of which can be quick) will give
you extra years with the kids.

 

[silentsquirrel]

If you can get over the low-fat brainwashing, plenty of cheese and eggs would add to your calories and fill you up. Soup and cheese rather than soup and bread?

 

[Leadinglights]

I don't know how old your kids are but why not involve them in preparation of the ingredients for your meals or helping with the shopping. You have to make time to sort out yourself as in the long run you will feel better and more able to enjoy the time with your family.

 

[Leadinglights]

Thanks I get this but in my very busy life even that's time I just dont have. If I do that it's time away from my kids spent cooking or late nights when I should be sleeping. I work full time so my aim in life is to make the most of my time with the kids.The meal was 23g of carbs. The soup just 9.3g for the portion I had which was 300g(all weighed out). If that's a high carb meal then think I'll be suicidal now as there is nothing convenient quick and filling that doesnt have carbs in. I'm finding I either eat carbs around 130g max a day or to get lower carbs I'm basically eating veg only and getting about 800calories in a day- not sure what's more dangerous tbh as I cant sustain much more weight loss. I'm really not sure I can do this as I'm not been akward I simply dont like food that isnt carbs apart from vegetables so all I'm eating is plates of veg. I cant believe my life has come to not being able to eat a small slice of bread from a 400g loaf :-(. Thanks for the advice is does make sense just need to magic some more hours in the day

You have the opposite problem to most people who need to lose weight so the reduction in carbs can result in weight loss but that is the very thing you need to avoid so it is difficult for you not to lose weight when reducing your carbs which you need to do for the blood glucose control.
All the advice is focussed on weight loss and there are people with diabetes who are in the same situation as you so hopefully they will chip in with some suggestions for you.

 

[Inka]

These are great ideas but again l time. I normally buy my lunch from a local meal prep company. All low fat but alot of pastas, noodles rice dishes etc so no good now. I'm used to just grabbing those out the freezer and going to work. I just feel guilt cos all this extra time I've to spend in the supermarket buying fresh stuff or prepping my food is time away from my kids

Don’t feel guilty. You’re investing in your health and that can only benefit your children.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

I think it would be worthwhile having a conversation with your GP about the rises you are getting with a low carbohydrate load @Jo121, and ask to have your cPeptide measured? Plus GAD antibodies.

I think it would be helpful to know how much of your own insulin you are producing.

 

[Drummer]

I have a grill with a thermostat - the food goes in, and it needs no attention until it is done - also a Tefal Actrfry - the food is turned and cooked for the time set, then it stops - there is also a halogen oven, time and temperature controlled, that can do a whole meal and only needs a stir or turn over at half time for perfect results.
I do have a lot of toys in the kitchen, all are quite old now and the time they have saved me standing over the cooker must amount to some years by now.
I got a bread maker recently and I am making low carb bricks - I just need to discover what it needs to make them puff up like normal bread. I do find that a 'normal' bread can make me spike higher than the carb content would imply - beans and peas do the same thing. We are all different.