Sharing recipes & avoiding cross-posting

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Links are recommended...
Please see info about sharing found recipes here: https://forum.diabetes.org.uk/boards/threads/links-are-recommended.74334/

Cross-posting
Please be mindful of cross-posting (posting the same content in multiple locations). If you have already shared a recipe on a board and wish to reference again, you can always link to your original post.

Thank you!
Thanks everyone, looking forward to more recipe inspiration from you all! :D

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Benny G said:
To be honest most of the recipes i have found either online or in books or magazines usually get modified by me to include more chocolate or other daft ingredients which I then write down on the back of an envelope, with details of how well it turned out.
But, sure, if I ever copy word for word, stir for stir then I will post a link or credit the source.
Cross posting of recipes has been requested several times by members as individual recipes are often lost in long threads. I don't see a solution for that problem.
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Thanks @Benny G ! Great, yes if you are adapting and changing recipes then just a nod to where it originated if possible, should suffice.

In regards to the cross-posting, can I double check that you are referring to when a recipe is shared in discussion thread, and then added to the 'recipe thread' retrospectively, so that members can access/find a recipe easily?


If so, then the simplest option is to post new recipes in the recipe board, then simply link to the thread in the discussion. This would limit cross posting and would also mean that all recipes mentioned in threads are easily available for everyone in the recipe board, which would be great and is what the recipe board was intended for! :D

If a recipe is already in the recipe board then you can simply link to it in discussions, rather than paste again.

Hope that helps!
 
Hi Benny,

Hoping the below offers clarity - let me know if not.
  1. Discuss recipe in low carb thread, do not include full recipe, include a link to the recipe on the recipe board. Yes, this avoids duplicating posts and means that recipes would not get lost in discussion and are easy to find for other members.
  2. Post recipe or better still a partial recipe in recipe board, with a link to the external source material if possible. Yes, this is the safest way to avoid an infringement of copyright law
  3. Do not reply directly on a recipe in the recipe board, post replies in a different discussion thread with a link back to the recipe board. No, there is no need to stop responding to threads in the recipe board. Discussion can continue on recipe threads as in any other threads.
 
If there are concerns on infringing copyrighted material surely this would relate to all material published on the forum...photographs...videos...music videos...avatars...news items...jokes...possibly even text from Wikipedia which I see here quite often...this list is endless..your post suggests your concerns are limited to recipes per se...can you please clarify this point so there is no general confusion..
 
I am also totally confused by this original post @Hannah DUK
Why is it directed at Recipes? Why have recipes apparently been singled out for highlighting?
As @Bubbsie and @Benny G have quite rightly stated, there are posts of other material on this forum that offer greater opportunities for coyright infringement.
I would like clarification on this as I am sure many others would.
It is worth noting that many recipes are devised and created by members and that original recipes are modified to suit individual needs.
I for one have found the recipes on here invaluable. I feel a clear explanation is required.
 
Bubbsie said:
...can you please clarify this point so there is no general confusion..
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Thanks @Bubbsie , yes of course.

Videos/Music Videos: Tend to be embedded in a post and usually contain a link to the original source, so they are fine as they are essentially already a link in themselves.
There are some videos of recipes - and just to clarify, these are ok as they already have a link embedded in them.

News articles: Yes this absolutely applies to news articles, but looking at the 'In the news..' board, everyone has posted links for news articles, so there was no need for us to post a reminder in there.


Images, jokes, photographs, etc: Depending on the source, they are more likely be made available to share freely online under an open source license like Creative Commons. Sometimes if they are not, they may have a watermark on them for example. I will confirm this with our legal team as they initially advised with this reminder, and we can review it, so thank you.
Any images, photo's etc that are your own, of course do not have a copyright risk.

Thanks!
 
Hannah DUK said:
Thanks @Bubbsie , yes of course.

Videos/Music Videos: Tend to be embedded in a post and usually contain a link to the original source, so they are fine as they are essentially already a link in themselves.
There are some videos of recipes - and just to clarify, these are ok as they already have a link embedded in them.

News articles: Yes this absolutely applies to news articles, but looking at the 'In the news..' board, everyone has posted links for news articles, so there was no need for us to post a reminder in there.


Images, jokes, photographs, etc: Depending on the source, they are more likely be made available to share freely online under an open source license like Creative Commons. Sometimes if they are not, they may have a watermark on them for example. I will confirm this with our legal team as they initially advised with this reminder, and we can review it, so thank you.
Any images, photo's etc that are your own, of course do not have a copyright risk.

Thanks!
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I am aware of copyright rules Hannah...my concern stems from the fact just the recipes & low carb foods seemed to be the subject of your concern nothing else...I find it strange that your legal team should suddenly take issue with the recipe & low carb baking/food posts in isolation...particularly since so much 'material' is published here without being credited to any particular source.
 
Vince_UK said:
It is worth noting that many recipes are devised and created by members and that original recipes are modified to suit individual needs.
I for one have found the recipes on here invaluable. I feel a clear explanation is required.
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Absolutely agree - The recipe board is a really great feature of this forum and something to be celebrated!
We understand that many of you share recipes regularly and many more members, I am sure, will read and create them. It is a vital part of this forum, especially when diet is so important for so many.

So yes, do continue to share recipes, especially those developed and created by forum members, that is what the board is for and it is one of the more active boards we have! 🙂
As mentioned above, we simply ask that members link to recipes that have found online (as you would with a news article). If the recipe is your own, or adapted, that is fine, just let us know!

Thanks
 
Bubbsie said:
I am aware of copyright rules Hannah...my concern stems from the fact just the recipes & low carb foods seemed to be the subject of your concern nothing else...I find it strange that your legal team should suddenly take issue with the recipe & low carb baking/food posts in isolation...particularly since so much 'material' is published here without being credited to any particular source.
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Thank you, I understand your concern. Just to make clear, the reminder applies to all recipes and no threads have been singled out. Apologies if there has been any confusion.
As mentioned, I will follow up regarding your concerns and update you, so thank you again for raising them.
 
Hannah DUK said:
Absolutely agree - The recipe board is a really great feature of this forum and something to be celebrated!
We understand that many of you share recipes regularly and many more members, I am sure, will read and create them. It is a vital part of this forum, especially when diet is so important for so many.

So yes, do continue to share recipes, especially those developed and created by forum members, that is what the board is for and it is one of the more active boards we have! 🙂
As mentioned above, we simply ask that members link to recipes that have found online (as you would with a news article). If the recipe is your own, or adapted, that is fine, just let us know!

Thanks
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If it also applies to news @Hannah DUK then may I draw your attention to the Terms and Conditions of the Guardian Newspaper which is often quoted on here.

"
3. Use of material appearing on the Guardian Site

Your use of the Guardian Site is for your own personal and non-commercial use only. You acknowledge that, as between Guardian and you, except for user content and advertisements (as discussed below), Guardian is the sole owner of all content on the Guardian Site, including, without limitation, all applicable copyrights, patents, trademarks, trade secrets, trade names, logos, and other intellectual property rights thereto, as well as text, images, graphics, logos, audio, video and other material appearing on the Guardian Site (“Guardian Content”). The Guardian Site and the Guardian Content are protected by the copyright laws and other intellectual property laws of the United Kingdom, the United States and Australia and are protected globally by applicable international copyright treaties.

You may download and print extracts from the Guardian Content for your own personal and non-commercial use only, provided you maintain and abide by any author attribution, copyright or trademark notice or restriction in any material that you download or print. You may not use any Guardian Content for any other purpose without our prior written approval. Except as expressly authorised by the Guardian, you are not allowed to create a database in electronic or paper form comprising all or part of the material appearing on the Guardian Site.

If you wish to use our content other than as permitted by these terms and conditions, please contact us at syndication@theguardian.com. If you operate a news aggregation service that charges a subscription fee to its users, then you need to approach the NLA directly to discuss your licensing requirements. Please see nla.co.uk."
The full details in this link.
https://www.theguardian.com/help/terms-of-service
I assume therefore that the relevant approvals have already been granted by the Guardian and other news sources?
I know I have myself posted news links but now that would appear to be in breach of copyright.
My question remains unanswered
Why are recipes being specifically highlighted for potential copyright ?
Most of which are in the public domain anyway.
The Low Carb thread is a Godsend to many.
I would say that your statement applies to any such content posted on here from any source.
You cannot have 1 rule for one type of content and a different rule for others.
It is either all or nothing. Same would apply to photos especially in the thread regarding cute animals. Use of photograhic material is particularly risky.
 
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Bubbsie said:
I am aware of copyright rules Hannah...my concern stems from the fact just the recipes & low carb foods seemed to be the subject of your concern nothing else...I find it strange that your legal team should suddenly take issue with the recipe & low carb baking/food posts in isolation...particularly since so much 'material' is published here without being credited to any particular source.
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Hannah DUK said:
Absolutely agree - The recipe board is a really great feature of this forum and something to be celebrated!
We understand that many of you share recipes regularly and many more members, I am sure, will read and create them. It is a vital part of this forum, especially when diet is so important for so many.

So yes, do continue to share recipes, especially those developed and created by forum members, that is what the board is for and it is one of the more active boards we have! 🙂
As mentioned above, we simply ask that members link to recipes that have found online (as you would with a news article). If the recipe is your own, or adapted, that is fine, just let us know!

Thanks
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Hannah DUK said:
Thank you, I understand your concern. Just to make clear, the reminder applies to all recipes and no threads have been singled out. Apologies if there has been any confusion.
As mentioned, I will follow up regarding your concerns and update you, so thank you again for raising them.
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You missed the point of @Bubbsie's post @Hannah DUK. That your comments "applies to all recipes and no threads have been singled out" ignores that it singles out the recipes/food posts. That all recipes have been singled out isn't an answer. The recipe post/threads have still been singled out.
 
Ralph-YK said:
You missed the point of @Bubbsie's post @Hannah DUK. That your comments "applies to all recipes and no threads have been singled out" ignores that it singles out the recipes/food posts. That all recipes have been singled out isn't an answer. The recipe post/threads have still been singled out.
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That is exactly the point that is being missed Ralph. It was and is the recipe/low carb threads that ARE being singled out.
I have asked for an explanation and thus far have received none.
 
I knew this sort of thing was going to happen, I said Diabetes seem to be taking over this forum when all these new names were popping up, new boards added, new rules added, that's the reason I no longer partake anymore, we had no problems when Northerner was running this forum for the last 10 years, now he has built it up they are changing it for the worse. you watch the next thing down the road will be a £3 membership fee. I was the first member to sign up in this forum on the day it opened and I sorry to say I have seen this coming this last few months.

John.
 
Thank you all for your feedback with this and for highlighting your concerns. As mentioned in #8, it's applicable for all material across the forum. The reason for the reminder in the 'Recipe' board was due to an ongoing absence of links and an increase in cross-posting. This was less apparent in the 'In the News...' thread, where all posts already contained links.
However, you are right in highlighting your concerns with images, jokes etc. Whether this material is safe to share online or not, varies depending on the source and whether they (the source) permit free sharing online. So, to ensure that all our users are safe, we recommend using a link, so we will update all boards accordingly to reflect this.

Thanks once again for your support with this. Please keep sharing and enjoying great recipes! 🙂
 
Would it be OK to say Good morning, it's a nice sunny day here today, or would that be copyright of my local weather forecast because they printed it first. :confused:🙄
 
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