Several countries pause use of AstraZeneca vaccine to investigate blood clots

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Several European countries have either suspended inoculations with the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine as a precautionary measure or banned the use of a specific batch after after blood clots formed in some people who had received the jab.

Both the Anglo-Swedish drugmaker and Europe’s medicines regulator said the vaccine was safe as Denmark, Norway and Iceland announced on Thursday they were temporarily halting all AstraZeneca vaccinations to investigate the cases.

Italy’s national medicines authority, meanwhile, followed Austria, Estonia, Latvia, Luxembourg and Lithuania in banning inoculations with one particular batch of AstraZeneca vaccines, consisting of 1m doses, which was sent to 17 countries.

The European Medicines Agency said this week that 22 cases of blood clots had been reported as of 9 March among more than 3 million people vaccinated with the AstraZeneca shot in Europe. There was no evidence so far linking AstraZeneca to the two cases in Austria, it said on Wednesday.

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Several EU countries suspend AstraZeneca vaccine to investigate blood clot cases

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that sounds like a major worry i am going to hold off the jab till i see how this pans out as i have CAD
 
When I posted the offical reports a while ago, I did think, that out of 200,000+ adverse reactions, some which stand out in common with high numbers, there is likely something in it. Trouble with the reports is finding which of those 200,000+ reactions are related to the vaccine. I'm sure someone with a medical background could spot some common occurances and attribute them to more than just pure coincidence. I don't know who is responsible for investigating the figures.

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Thebearcametoo said:
Well I hope it’s not common as that’s the vaccine I got today
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It’s being reported that the percentage of people suffering clots having had the vaccine is the same as the percentage of people having clots in the general population. (My husband had a clot several years ago that wasn’t linked to anything, it just happened, and so did one of my cousins. They just happen sometimes).
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Oxford-AstraZeneca: EU says 'no indication' vaccine linked to clots

The EU's medicines regulator reassures states after several countries suspended use of the vaccine.
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Robin said:
It’s being reported that the percentage of people suffering clots having had the vaccine is the same as the percentage of people having clots in the general population. (My husband had a clot several years ago that wasn’t linked to anything, it just happened, and so did one of my cousins. They just happen sometimes).
www.bbc.co.uk

Oxford-AstraZeneca: EU says 'no indication' vaccine linked to clots

The EU's medicines regulator reassures states after several countries suspended use of the vaccine.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Hi Robin,

I take it some official actually looks at these adverse reaction reports? Is someone responsible for keeping track and drawing any conclusions etc
 
Amity Island said:
Hi Robin,

I take it some official actually looks at these adverse reaction reports? Is someone responsible for keeping track and drawing any conclusions etc
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Life’s too short to go and look at the minutes of the European medicine regulatory body (and U.K.body which has come to the same conclusion). But I’m assuming it’s safe to bet that if they say 'the number of cases of thrombosis is the same' then someone somewhere has done some counting.
If nobody looked at the adverse events reports, how would they know that people had suffered clots after having the jabs (and I mean 'sequentially' here, not 'as a result of')? The hospitals involved with those patients must have alerted someone.
 
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Robin said:
It’s being reported that the percentage of people suffering clots having had the vaccine is the same as the percentage of people having clots in the general population. (My husband had a clot several years ago that wasn’t linked to anything, it just happened, and so did one of my cousins. They just happen sometimes).
www.bbc.co.uk

Oxford-AstraZeneca: EU says 'no indication' vaccine linked to clots

The EU's medicines regulator reassures states after several countries suspended use of the vaccine.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Yeah I’m not actually worried. I think there will be reports like this as clusters of symptoms get reported at the same time as people are being vaccinated and it’s right that there’s caution but data analysis will then show if it’s an actual issue or not and most vaccines will be reinstated pretty quickly or more guidelines about who is most at risk will be released with maybe some vaccines not given to certain groups.
 
If someone could explain to me how this type of vaccine could cause blood clots, I might be worried. I can’t think of a pathological pathway that would account for clots, apart from sitting around on your arse after vaccination.
 
mikeyB said:
If someone could explain to me how this type of vaccine could cause blood clots, I might be worried. I can’t think of a pathological pathway that would account for clots, apart from sitting around on your arse after vaccination.
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You are obliged to sit on your arse for 15 minutes after the Pfizer one :D
 
I’m not worried, Corvid can do very much worse imo. Dads had 2 DVTs the last one was last November , he had the AZ vaccine the other week and even if we had heard of this he would still have had the AZ.

Yes of course some people will have problems they may become very ill or even worse , this is very sad , this can happen with any med or treatment. A few years ago I had a blood transfusion and now I’ve got an antibody that I didn’t have beforehand.

My understanding about theses vaccines is that , the reason they didn’t take the years and years of testing, is because instead of waiting then and testing and checking at certain stages , the tests etc were ongoing throughout the development of hem, now I may be totally wrong about this, it’s something I heard somewhere, not dr Google lol , ages ago.
 
Ljc said:
My understanding about theses vaccines is that , the reason they didn’t take the years and years of testing, is because instead of waiting then and testing and checking at certain stages , the tests etc were ongoing throughout the development of hem, now I may be totally wrong about this, it’s something I heard somewhere, not dr Google lol , ages ago.
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That's the case as far as I know - development and testing was compressed compared to past vaccines, but none of the necessary steps were omitted. £billions were put into developing them that might normally not have been forthcoming without such an urgent need 🙂
 
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Two cases in millions of vaccinations must make it clear that this is not a complication, more of a coincidence. We have been told nothing about the underlying pathology in the victims. No other country has reported this so-called side effect.

You wouldn’t stop driving for fear of becoming one of the three or more people per week who get killed doing it. That’s just in England.

So if that is not sufficient for you to disregard this report, then your are helplessly paranoid. Get yourself vaccinated or risk death.

And above all, get a working knowledge of statistical risks of death or injury. There are still folk who shelter under trees in a thunderstorm.
 
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was actually mentioned on R2 last night off course the pharma are on the defence why shouldn't they as they are the ones making the dosh out of this and stand to loose if there is any kind of link.
 
mikeydt1 said:
was actually mentioned on R2 last night off course the pharma are on the defence why shouldn't they as they are the ones making the dosh out of this and stand to loose if there is any kind of link.
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To be fair, AZ are providing their vaccine at cost, at least during the pandemic. Also, I heard that there have been around 40 out of 17m doses where blood clots have occurred, which is 1:425,000 (and there is no proven link). I always remember when I was diagnosed and had to sign a form so they could do an angiogram - I was told there was a 1:200 risk of permanent brain damage, which was something I WAS a bit worried about, by contrast! 😱
 
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