Risks of mass Vaccinating

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a mass vaccination centre in Cardiff 9 staff have tested positive for the virus. now just think how many people would of come into contact with these staff and they have to try and contact all those concerned and god knows how many others.

this situation does question if getting people to large centres is justified knowing the above can happen.

when they were doing the flu jab in my area i declined as i found out they were getting large groups together and was told that at least 60 people were in a car park where they were doing vaccinations, this totally put me off knowing about the risks of mass gatherings.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/cardiff-vaccination-centre-staff-test-positive-covid-b328333.html
 
As with all things covid-related it is a calculation of risk.
Is the risk higher of getting covid form 60 people socially distancing in a car park (I assume mostly in their cars) or of getting flu and covid?
Is the risk of catching covid from someone is a mass vaccination centre greater for less than an hour greater than getting it in the months that follow?

The scientists, government and NHS can give us their guidance but it is up to us what we do.
This is no different to being told you have cancer which has a 1 in x chance of killing you in 5 years which could be treated via an operation during which you have a 1 in y chance of killing you.
 
Possibly if we all seal ourselves in wooden boxes and get someone to bury us 6 feet deep, there may be a chance to entirely avoid the virus literally for ever.

Myself - I'm willing to take the chance of getting both doses of whichever vaccine I eventually get offered though.

Please yerself what you do, same as everyone else will.
 
think i did a post back in March where staff at a test and trace call centre got the virus.

any way just seen that they are starting doing the vaccine in our area, from the grouping mine should come up some time next year.
 
Well they have in Coventry - ie our 'personal' hospital LOL - but at 70 and a month off 73 and both 'clinically extremely vulnerable' and both testing positive for Covid the weekend before last - reckon we might get it about Easter possibly.

I would really really love to be able to look forward to doing anything whatsoever, NORMAL.
 
Happy to wait & take turn, by then Oxford one be rolled out so no need for second jab.
 
Yes - and it worked better with the first half dose, they said the apparent efficacy increased from whatever to 95%. Haven't heard any more since - so it's wait and see! Don't mind which brand frankly! 🙂
 
trophywench said:
Haven't heard any more since - so it's wait and see!
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The half dose then full dose thing was (by accident) only tested on under 55 year olds. So there's still a question about it, which I imagine is being explored in the ongoing trials (as is using different vaccines for the two doses).
trophywench said:
Don't mind which brand frankly!
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Yes, as soon as I'm offered any of them I'll take it.
 
Oooh, that bit about the 55 yos had escaped me. But as you say, further trials have been ongoing so who knows by the time us oldies get ours. Obviously we'd rather have over 90% immunity than not !
 
trophywench said:
Obviously we'd rather have over 90% immunity than not !
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The numbers of cases are small enough that I suspect none of them have numbers they can be very confident about. (This 95% vs 94.5% difference between Pfizer and Moderna's results are especially silly: they have no idea yet.)

I guess it may be there's something especially effective in the new mRNA ones. (One suspicion, driving the trials of one dose of the Oxford/AstraZenica one and one of something else (like the Russian vaccine) is that if you give the immune system too much to look at (like the cold virus with the spike) then it might be confused and go after other parts of the cold virus rather than the spike, and using two slightly different ones might help. And that wouldn't be relevant for mRNA since it's so much simpler.)

However, I'm still guessing the numbers are too small to be confident in comparing effectiveness. So far they're all really good, and I'll have any of them.
 
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