Rising bs even if you don't eat!

[Daisy]

Hi there
This applies to type 1's but may to T2's also??
If I get up and my am bs is slightly raised - anywhere between 7 + 9 - I sometimes decided not to have breakfast straightaway and get on with stuff - usually if I test 2/3 hours later - and my bs levels have always risen by at least 2. Now I understand raised levels in the am can be from going low overnight - but this happens whether they are from that or whether they are raised because I had a large dinner - and expect them to be a bit high. In which case - rationally they should lower as the am goes on. Honestly - there is no rationale to diabetes sometimes! Does this happen to anyone else? Would be interesting to hear...

 

[bluebird]

hi there..i used to have same problem but was told that if u go without food the liver will start to produce sugar.the body works in strange ways but thats the reason why they stress that u eat at regular intervals.i ensure i have breakfast now every morn.🙂

 

[Lizzie]

Hi Daisy

This could be a number of things. If you are on a basal bolus regime with a basal long acting injection and then boluses at meals, then it could be that your basal insulin is not right. At DAFNE we were told that we could fast for a day to check whether our basal insulin was working. But be careful if you are not used to changing your own insulin dosage. Even if you are on a different insulin regime, your dosage might not be correct and might be running out before you inject and the lack of insulin in your body is causing the rise.

Or there could be some other reason like you might have food on your fingers, or your meter might not be working, or you might not be rotating injection sites enough.

 

[kojack]

Hi Daisy
As has been said, your liver stores glycogen which it releases if it "thinks" your body needs more bs.

I am drug/diet controlled T2 and usually my morning reading is the same as or even higher than at bedtime.
I try to keep to a regular eating time and certainly make sure that I have eaten a breakfast within 45/50 minutes of getting up.
Don't delay or miss your brekkie

 

[aymes]

something else that may be worth considering is dawn phenomenon, it's probably worth googling as I don't know much about the science behind it but it's along the lines of your body releasing certain hormones overnight which makes your liver up it's glucose output. It's part of the reason why a lot of people have to use a higher insulin ratio in the morning than at other times.

 

[Alistair]

Most weeks recently see me fasting for a couple of days (to help keep the weight off) and regular testing indicates that BG levels keep on rising through either the liver releasing glycogen or more hopefully the conversion of fat, insulin is of course needed to keep the levels on target.

 

[Daisy]

Ooooh!

🙂 Thanks for your replies - I know I do suffer from the dawn phenomenon now and then! It's interesting that our pancreas's don't produce insulin or don't produce enough insulin - but also whatever it is in our bodies that self monitors out bs levels also doesn't work - so I am guessing that the pancreas is also our self monitor - as otherwise - why would our livers 'think' that we need glucose if we haven't eaten - while our electronic monitors tell us we don't! Oooh! That's really made me think - anyone have any theories?!