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WSF

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Dear all
Looking for support and anyone who may have experienced this. Type 2 diabetic for years, managed to get of insulin, take metformin and now Reybelsus 14 ml. For a few months, had the initial stomach upset etc but it got better. Noticed recently tingling in two fingers, will not go, thought it was related to a trapped nerve from November in back. Currently got double whammy with winter coughing and norovirus, I mean bad. Ended in a&e it was while there a consultant after some test mentioned my pancreas but tailed off, it was get in and out. The last week I have been getting heat in left foot up leg slightly. All these things are alarming me, I know I’m unwell with these bugs and on antibiotics but I suppose I am just concerned reybelsus is harmful to me. Bloods being done later. Any guidance or just similar stuff I am currently having health anxiety. Thank you in advance
 
New here but have put a thread up and hope I can illicit some support. I’m 61, struggling with recent health anxiety around managing my type 2, being on reybelsus, just managing some other related issues.
 
New here but have put a thread up and hope I can illicit some support. I’m 61, struggling with recent health anxiety around managing my type 2, being on reybelsus, just managing some other related issues.
Welcome to the forum
If you would like to share a bit more information it may help people make suggestions. How long have you been diagnosed and are you on any other diabetic medication, what is your HbA1C and what dietary regime are you following as well as the meds.
Sometimes medication for other conditions can impact on blood glucose.
 
Dear all
Looking for support and anyone who may have experienced this. Type 2 diabetic for years, managed to get of insulin, take metformin and now Reybelsus 14 ml. For a few months, had the initial stomach upset etc but it got better. Noticed recently tingling in two fingers, will not go, thought it was related to a trapped nerve from November in back. Currently got double whammy with winter coughing and norovirus, I mean bad. Ended in a&e it was while there a consultant after some test mentioned my pancreas but tailed off, it was get in and out. The last week I have been getting heat in left foot up leg slightly. All these things are alarming me, I know I’m unwell with these bugs and on antibiotics but I suppose I am just concerned reybelsus is harmful to me. Bloods being done later. Any guidance or just similar stuff I am currently having health anxiety. Thank you in advance
You seem to have answered some of the questions I asked in the other thread you started.
Obviously all the illnesses will have had an impact on blood glucose which hopefully will settle when you start to recover.
What you will need to look at will be a sustainable medication and dietary approach moving forward so that will be something to discuss with your Diabetic nurse or clinic.
I saw a chiropractor when I had a trapped nerve in my back a few well actually 20 years ago and it was magic.
 
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Good morning @WSF and welcome to the forum. It's a very good place for information and support. Perfectly normal to feel anxiety if you are struggling to manage your diabetes. It can often be contrary and illogical despite your efforts. I don't take the medication you are querying but I am sure someone on the forum with some experience will post to share with you.
You will find you can ask any question or concerns here. Nothing is considered silly. We all started with little or no knowledge about living with diabetes and lots of us are still learning.
 
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Welcome to the forum @WSF

Sorry to hear about your health anxiety :(

And I guess the pressures the NHS has been under might explain the stressed nature of your A&E visit, and their keenness to get people through the system as soon as they could?

I suppose it’s natural to think about symptoms you have begun to experience and associating them with a new medication, but from what I can make out the common side effects of Rybelsus seem to be gastric upset and nausea.

This page has some details:

I’m no expert, but I don’t think any changes in sensation are likely to be due to the rybelsus. Elevated glucose levels over an extended time can give rise to tingling or burning sensations. Additionally you might want to get your Vitamin B12 checked, particularly if you have been taking Metformin for some time, as low Vit B12 can sometmes cause changes in sensation.

Can you remember the most recent HbA1c result you had?
 
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Welcome to the forum @WSF

Sorry to hear about your health anxiety :(

And I guess the pressures the NHS has been under might explain the stressed nature of your A&E visit, and their keenness to get people through the system as soon as they could?

I suppose it’s natural to think about symptoms you have begun to experience and associating them with a new medication, but from what I can make out the common side effects of Rybelsus seem to be gastric upset and nausea.

This page has some details:

I’m no expert, but I don’t think any changes in sensation are likely to be due to the rybelsus. Elevated glucose levels over an extended time can give rise to tingling or burning sensations. Additionally you might want to get your Vitamin B12 checked, particularly if you have been taking Metformin for some time, as low Vit B12 can sometmes cause changes in sensation.

Can you remember the most recent HbA1c result you had?
Hi there thanks for replying. I monitor daily 6.5 / 8.0 was running high for a while above 10. Due to snacking. Currently wiped out by both norovirus and winter cold. Antibiotics ten days in total and to be honest stress because my mum was ill so wasn’t eating became run down. I have some sensations recently in left foot, almost hot sensation, slight tingling in two fingers so have been a little panicked. Had bloods and x-ray as can’t shift cough. Back on track but I will ask about B12.
 
Soudns like you’ve really been through the mill recently @WSF :(

Glad you've been able to get back on track - Hope you are back to full strength really soon.
 
I’ve just looked at my medical records and it states abnormal against my HbAc1 readings. 46 /52/ 48. I am starting to get worried as ten years ago after an ablation for LVT I was told by diabetic nurse in cardiology never below 5 never above 10. Yet the GP practice nurse has my ranges between 4.7 and 6.5 which contradicts everything cardiology told me. Anyone has any information that would help please.
 
I’ve just looked at my medical records and it states abnormal against my HbAc1 readings. 46 /52/ 48. I am starting to get worried as ten years ago after an ablation for LVT I was told by diabetic nurse in cardiology never below 5 never above 10. Yet the GP practice nurse has my ranges between 4.7 and 6.5 which contradicts everything cardiology told me. Anyone has any information that would help please.
The 46/52/48 mmol/mol will be the results of your HbA1C tests which gives in simple terms the average blood glucose over the 3 months prior to the test, anything over 47mmol/mol gives a diabetes diagnosis.
Once diagnosed and if testing your blood glucose with a finger prick test with a home monitor giving a moment in time reading then the level people aim to be is 4-7mmol/l fasting/morning and before eating and no more than 8-8.5mmol/l 2 hours after eating or no more than a 2-3mmol/l increase from your meal after 2 hours. I suspect that was what your nurse was referring to.
 
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of course yes. I understand what you’re saying. I finger test multiple times daily. Have my periodic bloods which all show ranges between 5 to 10 max. Mostly hovering around 7. The bloods state abnormal because the range set is 4.7 to 6.5 at GP. Again be assured the coronary diabetic nurse stated never below 5 ever, never above 10. So this is where I keep them which is a slight contradiction to GP. I think I will request a referral back to diabetic team because it’s slightly worrying as since being on Reybelsus they dip fast with some back pain and upper quadrant pain. I do sadly have pancreatic atrophy. I will pursue as it’s not going well for me I think
 
of course yes. I understand what you’re saying. I finger test multiple times daily. Have my periodic bloods which all show ranges between 5 to 10 max. Mostly hovering around 7. The bloods state abnormal because the range set is 4.7 to 6.5 at GP. Again be assured the coronary diabetic nurse stated never below 5 ever, never above 10. So this is where I keep them which is a slight contradiction to GP. I think I will request a referral back to diabetic team because it’s slightly worrying as since being on Reybelsus they dip fast with some back pain and upper quadrant pain. I do sadly have pancreatic atrophy. I will pursue as it’s not going well for me I think
That may put a different complexion on your ability to cope with carbohydrates, sounds like you need more input from your GP or consultant.
 
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I do sadly have pancreatic atrophy. I will pursue as it’s not going well for me I think
I can't help wondering if your pancreatic atrophy means that your diabetes diagnosis should be Type 3c, rather than Type 2.
Ended in a&e it was while there a consultant after some test mentioned my pancreas but tailed off, it was get in and out.
I've just looked back to your initial post and reminded myself that someone else thought that. Can you get into your medical notes to find out who said this or when. I note you have been formally diagnosed T2 for some years. Just how many years and were pancreatic issues mentioned originally?

Some information about T3c is below:

The point is that if you do have pancreatic damage, then your treatment could follow a different path as a T3c, starting with referral to an Endocrinologist, who can investigate from a different perspective. Depending on the findings prescribing CGM becomes an option, to allow you to monitor your BG more easily.

I am at one end of T3c as someone with absolutely no pancreas. But many more folk get here after pancreatitis causing permanent, irreparable, damage to their pancreas. Their diabetes is definitely not T1 (ie not an autoimmune condition) and while possibly closer to T2 (ie principally because of too much insulin resistance, preventing someone's body from making best use of any insulin they do produce) their diabetes is also caused by poor insulin production because of the pancreatic damage. Overall T3c is not commonly recognised nor diagnosed and those who do get this diagnosis are a very small proportion of the whole diabetic community.
I’ve just looked at my medical records and it states abnormal against my HbAc1 readings. 46 /52/ 48. I am starting to get worried as ten years ago after an ablation for LVT I was told by diabetic nurse in cardiology never below 5 never above 10. Yet the GP practice nurse has my ranges between 4.7 and 6.5 which contradicts everything cardiology told me. Anyone has any information that would help please.
This apparent contradiction is, in my non-medical opinion, because the general good practice advice means between 5 to 10 mmol/L applies; hence the cardiology observation. People without diabetes might get such fluctuations, but their metabolic responses manage their BG behind the scenes using pancreatic hormones such as insulin, glucagon and somostatin to sustain normality. Most of such people will be oblivious to such variations. Your cardiologist nurse included a reference to this knowing that you had a T2 diagnosis. A GP practice nurse, when dealing with routine T2 patients is providing a different set of guidelines: BG finger prick tests for ideal levels BEFORE eating any meal, from 5-7, PLUS then retesting 2 hrs after eating looking for a recovery to below 8 and preferably recovery to something less. Those sort of levels will give attainable targets for T2s, meal by meal and day by day to bring their BG levels steadily down and into a sustainable, medically safe state.

But with an atrophied pancreas normal pancreatic functions can be compromised and the routine T2 methodology may not be relevant. At the very least you are not a "standard" T2, ie with high, natural, insulin resistance causing you to have elevated BG.

Anyway, do pursue this line of thought. Many GP Practices are not aware of this subtle, but important distinction. At the very least you are at risk of being or becoming T3c. Good luck
 
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