Reasons why COVID-19 vaccines may be delayed

[Eddy Edson]

It may be time to reset expectations on when we'll get a Covid-19 vaccine

The ambitious drive to produce Covid-19 vaccine at warp speed seems to be running up against reality.

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Asked Wednesday about when he expects the FDA will greenlight use of the first vaccines, Anthony Fauci moved the administration’s stated goalpost.

“Could be January, could be later. We don’t know,” Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said in an online interview with JAMA editor Howard Bauchner.

Don't really have a handle on what the situation is for other jurisdictions ...

 

[grovesy]

I will only believe there is a vaccine when it is actually released. I think the world leaders on vaccines have all been cautious ,it is the politicians who are pushing the idea of date when it will be available.

 

[Bruce Stephens]

I think the world leaders on vaccines have all been cautious ,it is the politicians who are pushing the idea of date when it will be available.

I think Bill Gates has suggested the US might start approaching normal by the end of 2021. (And he'd know, being the creator of all this as part of his dark plan to implant mind control chips in everyone via the vaccine 😉.)

 

[Eddy Edson]

I think Bill Gates has suggested the US might start approaching normal by the end of 2021. (And he'd know, being the creator of all this as part of his dark plan to implant mind control chips in everyone via the vaccine 😉.)

Really? I heard it was actually the giant sentient space-chickens in control of the World Economic Forum who are running that part of the operation. Stories about Gates' involvement are apparently just a smokescreen. He and the other lizard-people lords are actually doing the 5G piece.

 

[Bruce Stephens]

Did he say if that will be normal or the new normal?

I don't remember. And I don't remember where I saw him reported as saying it, so it was probably a little while ago.

It doesn't seem implausible, if we get a few vaccines at scale which don't suck, together with some not too inaccurate cheap tests that can be widely used.

But it does look like the first vaccines probably won't stop vaccinated people from becoming infectious, so that's not the best we might hope for.

 

[grovesy]

I don't remember. And I don't remember where I saw him reported as saying it, so it was probably a little while ago.

It doesn't seem implausible, if we get a few vaccines at scale which don't suck, together with some not too inaccurate cheap tests that can be widely used.

But it does look like the first vaccines probably won't stop vaccinated people from becoming infectious, so that's not the best we might hope for.

I have seen Dr. Margaret Harris a WHO spokesperson, being interviewed a number of times but also as recent as the begining of the week. She was saying they have not seen any of reports on any of the vaccines yet!

 

[Bruce Stephens]

She was saying they have not seen any of reports on any of the vaccines yet!

I think the judgment is that there are so many being actively trialed (using a variety of mechanisms) that we'd have to be really unlucky for none of them to work. (Though I guess 2020 doesn't seem like a particularly lucky year, overall.)

 

[pm133]

I don't think we'll see widespread vaccinations for a few years.
Trials will probably continue for at least another year (and that is VERY fast for a new drug) and then it will take a few years to ramp up production and distribution capacity.

In my opinion, we're probably going to have to find a way of living with this and accepting a certain fatality rate - probably the end of next year. The alternative is unthinkable. Without a functioning economy our health service will be screwed anyway.

There isn't going to be a route out of this which avoids large numbers of deaths.

Glad it's not me having to make these choices.