Protein powder

[belugalad]

I'm a t2 diabetic and I'm wondering if whey protein powder is ok to take and does it have any adverse effect on bg?,I have some weights that have been sitting as door stop for about 4 years and I think I shall use them

 

[Eddy Edson]

I'm a t2 diabetic and I'm wondering if whey protein powder is ok to take and does it have any adverse effect on bg?,I have some weights that have been sitting as door stop for about 4 years and I think I shall use them

I think it depends on the ingredients, like anything else. Different powders have different carbs, sat fats, sodium etc etc.

 

[Docb]

I know I am a bit of an old cynic but you have got to be a bit suspicious when what has for ever been seen as a waste product is being sold as something with wondrous health benefits. Whey is the waste product from cheese making and was traditionally fed to pigs along with any other otherwise useless organic stuff knocking about the farm. OK when you had a pigsty at the back of your farm dairy, but not appropriate with modern pig production.

Turning it into some sort of health food seems to me to be a bit of a triumph of marketing over reality. You should not be buying it, they should be paying you for taking it away.

Like Eddy says, check the formulation and get the nutritional information and see what is in the stuff before using.

 

[Eddy Edson]

I know I am a bit of an old cynic but you have got to be a bit suspicious when what has for ever been seen as a waste product is being sold as something with wondrous health benefits. Whey is the waste product from cheese making and was traditionally fed to pigs along with any other otherwise useless organic stuff knocking about the farm. OK when you had a pigsty at the back of your farm dairy, but not appropriate with modern pig production.

Turning it into some sort of health food seems to me to be a bit of a triumph of marketing over reality. You should not be buying it, they should be paying you for taking it away.

Like Eddy says, check the formulation and get the nutritional information and see what is in the stuff before using.

My prejudices go the same way. I'm almost vegan these days and I don't have any trouble getting more than enough protein from real food.

Also, I've tried whey and IMO it's pretty nasty.

 

[Drummer]

It is called whey protein, but I have found that they have between 1//4 and 1/3rd of the weight as carbs - so way beyond my self set limit for foods.
I was puzzled at first to see recipes with whey protein as an ingredient coming out far higher in carbs than I expected.

 

[trophywench]

Was always sposed to be good for the skin.

 

[DiaWolf]

I'm currently using Huel Black Edition which is designed as low carb, 16g per serving. This is a meal replacement though but they do have shakes primarily for a protein hit rather than in replacement of a meal.

I use this at work for breakfast and lunch as its easy, convenient and is assisting me in reducing my insulin intake. Ive been using this most days for the last 10 days and it fills me up and find that it sustains my levels better than i expected which has then meant i have reduced snacking to keep away the hypo's!


I would take a look at some of the similar brands as they will all do similar things, think about how your diabetes reacts to certain things and if your going to give it a go start with a small order in case you find it has adverse effects to your levels so at least then you haven't smashed a load of money on it!

I suppose it research well, buy a little and trial

 

[Eddy Edson]

OK, so despite my comments above I've now started using protein powder. A body composition analysis indicated I'm actually not getting enough so I'm using the powder while I figure out some more satisfactory changes.

Soy protein isolate,with no additives, so no carbs etc - local Oz brand but I imagine something similar can be found anywhere. Just add some to a glass of water & toss it down. Much less nasty than whey.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

A body composition analysis indicated I'm actually not getting enough

How did you get the analysis done? Was it easy?

 

[Eddy Edson]

How did you get the analysis done? Was it easy?

Just from a BIA machine at the gym: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioelectrical_impedance_analysis

Takes about 30 seconds. I'm sure it's not that accurate, but its reading of slightly low protein levels is consistent with my LFT results which show slightly low albumin, trending down as I turned more vego. Anyway, upping protein a bit can't hurt.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

Just from a BIA machine at the gym: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioelectrical_impedance_analysis

Takes about 30 seconds. I'm sure it's not that accurate, but its reading of slightly low protein levels is consistent with my LFT results which show slightly low albumin, trending down as I turned more vego. Anyway, upping protein a bit can't hurt.

Ah yes! I’ve come across one of those with a guest pass at my mate‘s fancy gym.

 

[danielmg]

I'm currently using Huel Black Edition which is designed as low carb, 16g per serving. This is a meal replacement though but they do have shakes primarily for a protein hit rather than in replacement of a meal.

I use this at work for breakfast and lunch as its easy, convenient and is assisting me in reducing my insulin intake. Ive been using this most days for the last 10 days and it fills me up and find that it sustains my levels better than i expected which has then meant i have reduced snacking to keep away the hypo's!


I would take a look at some of the similar brands as they will all do similar things, think about how your diabetes reacts to certain things and if your going to give it a go start with a small order in case you find it has adverse effects to your levels so at least then you haven't smashed a load of money on it!

I suppose it research well, buy a little and trial

I can attest to Huel powder being a good option for low (or consistently controlled) carbohydrate intake. As @DiaWolf says, this is more of a complete nutrition source, with good levels of macro and micronutrients - Protein is however very well covered in all of their foods.

 

[denalauder]

The benefits of protein after exercise should not be forgotten either since it helps the body recover faster and reduces hunger. What harm can come from protein intake, both for men and women? If we use quality mixtures made from natural raw materials, the risk of adverse effects is reduced to zero. Manufacturers who care about the composition of their protein mixtures choose only safe products as a basis, which is why it is so important to buy only certified sports supplements. If I were you, I would read the honest reviews [Link removed by moderator] about the meal replacement, and I think it would be good for you.

 

[helli]

Manufacturers who care about the composition of their protein mixtures choose only safe products as a basis, which is why it is so important to buy only certified sports supplements.

Who certifies sports supplements and what kind of things are they checking?

 

[AngelSprings]

Hi denalauder, just looked up the ingredients in the Kachava meal replacement, and can only say 'wow'! Have you personal experience of using this product? It's expensive, but what price health?

 

[Gwynn]

Well now this is interesting. So strongly held views coming out.

Before I was diagnosed I wouln't have dreamed of touching the stuff BUT.... now...

I occasionally use ISO XP whey protein isolate. Carbs per 100g are 0.36g. Protein per 100g are 90g, of course a serving is somewhat less than 100g.

I like the chocolate flavour.

I can get it from Amazon or Holland and Barrett. Not cheap. But when I need to increase the protein but nothing else its ok.

Disolves well.

No side effects.

 

[Drummer]

The carb content does vary - a high one would be equivalent, in carbs, to two of my breakfasts.

 

[EmmaL76]

I have the slim fast keto protein powder. It doesn’t effect my sugars hardly at all. I make it with water but add ice and a splash of cream. Chocolate or vanilla. I also have a set of scales (from Amazon about £30) that gives me loads of info on an app. No clue how accurate it is but it puts my metabolic age a whole year younger than I actually am so I believe them 🙂

 

[diabJim]

I know I am a bit of an old cynic but you have got to be a bit suspicious when what has for ever been seen as a waste product is being sold as something with wondrous health benefits. Whey is the waste product from cheese making and was traditionally fed to pigs along with any other otherwise useless organic stuff knocking about the farm. OK when you had a pigsty at the back of your farm dairy, but not appropriate with modern pig production.

Turning it into some sort of health food seems to me to be a bit of a triumph of marketing over reality. You should not be buying it, they should be paying you for taking it away.

Like Eddy says, check the formulation and get the nutritional information and see what is in the stuff before using.

I think you will find, although I agree with you somewhat that it was a by product as it had no shelf life, plus whey in its form straight from the cheese is not that tasty, the change happened when they learnt how they could dry the whey, once drying without denaturing the whey, hence giving it a shelf life, then bingo it turned into a commodity. Its a pretty easy to digest protein source and was great for helping pigs gain muscle, but now its used in all sorts of foods as a protein source.

 

[diatribe]

I have not really used them in combination with exercise, but I have used them as a form of "dessert" if I have had a vegetarian (low protein) meal. I find they fill me up as for BG levels I cannot really say anything scientific on that part but I don´t think it has had a positive or negative impact so far. Given what other have said, I may try it after my exercise regime each day.