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MikeyBikey

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Today the US decides! I have read through the process in the NYT and it's more convoluted than a PIP or AA application as a result of which we will not really know the full result for a week.

Personally I think it would be better for the UK, the World and poorer diabetics in the US if Kayla wins. How a bullying sexist racist criminal is even allowed to run for President is beyond me. :(
 
And yet somehow he still has a lot of fans, and a lot of people seem to be either “I’m a Democrat” or “I’m a Republican” and never vote anything different regardless of who is in charge. Bizarre.
I’m also hoping and praying that Kamala Harris wins, no idea what she’s like but anything must be better than Trump! Fingers crossed that the people in the swing states have some sense!
 
MikeyBikey said:
Today the US decides! I have read through the process in the NYT and it's more convoluted than a PIP or AA application as a result of which we will not really know the full result for a week.

Personally I think it would be better for the UK, the World and poorer diabetics in the US if Kayla wins. How a bullying sexist racist criminal is even allowed to run for President is beyond me. :(
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Yeeeeeaaaah. I wouldn’t disagree with you. But in short. The populist & slanderer seems to manipulate the advantage with a cherry picked narrative?
 
Satan’s little helper said:
The populist & slanderer seems to manipulate the advantage with a cherry picked narrative?
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If (God help us) Trump wins and puts RFK Jr in charge of health, Elon Musk in charge of government destruction, etc., At least we'll learn how much the federal government can destroy public health and things like that. (What happens if you ban all vaccines in a modern country with polio virus and rabies? We might find out.)

It's also possible Trump would be replaced and/or controlled by the Project 2025 supporters and likely be taken in a slightly different direction which I imagine would be just as devastating but less informative.
 
I foresee the beginning of the end times for America if a certain party gets in.
 
About half of people voting think Trump is just fine. Win or lose, you can't stuff that genie back in the bottle & it's scary. They're a bigger problem than he is.
 
Inka said:
Harris was/is a weak opposition and not popular.
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Trump isn't popular either. I think Harris could easily have grown into the role and been a great President. Maybe she still will, if not this one then in the future. The counting isn't completed so maybe it won't be a Trump victory.

It's incredible that the race was close. Many of the people in Trump's last administration think he's unfit for the role (not just that he's a weak candidate, that he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near).

On the positive side, it knocks Brexit from the top spot of stupid things democracies have chosen to do. At least until we decide to leave the ECHR and maybe even after that.
 
I’m reminded of Douglas Adams’ wisdom on the subject:

The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. ​
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To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. ​
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To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.​
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Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (Restaurant at the End of the Universe)​
 
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Bruce Stephens said:
If (God help us) Trump wins and puts RFK Jr in charge of health, Elon Musk in charge of government destruction, etc., At least we'll learn how much the federal government can destroy public health and things like that. (What happens if you ban all vaccines in a modern country with polio virus and rabies? We might find out.)

It's also possible Trump would be replaced and/or controlled by the Project 2025 supporters and likely be taken in a slightly different direction which I imagine would be just as devastating but less informative.
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At least there is going to be new material from Randy Rainbow. (He got me through the lockdowns.) looks like he’s gearing up? The music kicks in at 2 minutes.

 
indio02 said:
Just woken up and the bbc news website is reporting that things are tilting towards Trump.... appallingly depressing!
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I think it was a bizarre decision for associates of the Labour Party to campaign for the Democrats: we have to deal with Trump regardless now that he's won (which was predictable) but he's not likely to do us too many favours knowing that our Government appeared to be campaigning against him.
 
everydayupsanddowns said:
I’m reminded of Douglas Adams’ wisdom on the subject:

The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them. ​
​
To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. ​
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To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.​
​
Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy​
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I thought that Obama did a decent job.
 
I heard someone say on telly today, "Interesting times" - and immediately thought OMG, knowing the words, "May you live in interesting times" is actually a curse not a happy wish - so that must mean the curse has come true. Well we'll just have to live with the consequences, shrug.
 
CliffH said:
I think it was a bizarre decision for associates of the Labour Party to campaign for the Democrats: we have to deal with Trump regardless now that he's won (which was predictable) but he's not likely to do us too many favours knowing that our Government appeared to be campaigning against him.
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It's apparently something members of both major parties have done for some time (and people associated with Democrat and Republican parties have sometimes come to the UK similarly). I agree with Trump there's a risk (he's a very transactional thin-skinned narcissist), but I'm not sure we should pander to him even if it's possibly beneficial in the short term. Everyone should make sure they're acting legally, obviously.

(Nigel Farage has a nerve complaining about it: he's actually an MP (leader, even), and he went over there to campaign while the House is sitting.)
 
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