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Pre diabetes 11

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Jewels06

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Hello pre type 11 doing slimming World since lockdown lost 10 lbs and diagnosed yesterday plus kidneys 50 pc
5ft 3
10 St, lost 10 lbs prior to being diagnosed pre diabetes on 16th July 2020
43mmol
 
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Welcome to the forum Jewels. Is that type 2 or type 1? At the side it says "At risk"?
 
Welcome to the forum @Jewels06

We have had many members over the years who have found Slimming World or Weight Watchers to be very helpful and motivating in helping them to move towards their weight goals. I really hope Slimming World works well for you.

As you probably already know your ‘at risk’ category (sometimes described as ‘prediabetes’ means that your body is having trouble effectively metabolising carbohydrates in your food, and losing weight - particularly around your middle - can really help to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of your organs.

One of the biggest questions when people arrive on the forum is often ‘what can I eat’ and while you have your SW to help, it is also important for you to look for foods that are BG-friendly, as well as waistline-friendly. There are obvious things like cakes, biscuits, sweets and sugary drinks that you will be wanting to cut out straight away, but you might be surprised how much *all* carbohydrate affects your BG levels, including potatoes, rice, pasta, bread, pastry, grains, breakfast cereals and many fruits. Fat, on the other hand, doesn’t affect blood glucose very much at all... so sometimes ‘low fat’ options end up being more disruptive to BG than regular versions.

The really tricky thing is that blood glucose responses to various foods are highly individual, and it can be impossible to say which types and amounts of carbohydrate will ‘spike’ your BG without checking for yourself.

You can use a BG meter, taking a reading before and again 2hrs after eating, to see what the differences are, to identify any carbs that seem to be spiking BG (initially in a way the numbers themselves matter less than the differences between them). Once you can see how you respond to different meals you can begin experimenting with reducing amounts of carbs and trying different types (sometimes just having things at a different time of day makes a difference). Gradually tweaking and tailoring your menu to find one that suits your tastebuds, your waistline and your BG levels 🙂

If you would like to use a Bg meter to check how your SW meals are affecting your glucose levels the cost can vary widely - especially when it comes to the strips the meters use. The most affordable meters members here have found are the SD Gluco Navii or the Spirit Tee2 which both have test strips at around £8 for 50

Good luck, and keep asking questions!
 
Hi Jewels06 , and welcome to the forum.
Congrats on your weight loss, I hope you didn't find it too difficult. Different methods suit different people.
Do you feel that you need to lose some more?

Type 2 Diabetes is more about the body not being able deal with Carbohydrates properly/easily (they all turn into sugars when digested), than about weight as such. Thus one way or another cutting the amount of carbs you eat is important. I am/was a normal weight Thin Outside Fat Inside (TOFI) Type 2 diabetic.

The best way to know if you are making progress from your pre-diabetes is by getting a Blood Glucose meter and testing your levels. That way you can see whether you are eating the right food in the right quantities.
The figures I use are that I want any increase in Blood Glucose from before to after a meal to be under 2.0 mmol/L together with a maximum Blood Glucose level of below 8.0 mmol/L (though some people are stricter and say they need it to be below 7.8 mmol/L).
 
Welcome to the forum @Jewels06

We have had many members over the years who have found Slimming World or Weight Watchers to be very helpful and motivating in helping them to move towards their weight goals. I really hope Slimming World works well for you.

As you probably already know your ‘at risk’ category (sometimes described as ‘prediabetes’ means that your body is having trouble effectively metabolising carbohydrates in your food, and losing weight - particularly around your middle - can really help to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of your organs.

One of the biggest questions when people arrive on the forum is often ‘what can I eat’ and while you have your SW to help, it is also important for you to look for foods that are BG-friendly, as well as waistline-friendly. There are obvious things like cakes, biscuits, sweets and sugary drinks that you will be wanting to cut out straight away, but you might be surprised how much *all* carbohydrate affects your BG levels, including potatoes, rice, pasta, bread, pastry, grains, breakfast cereals and many fruits. Fat, on the other hand, doesn’t affect blood glucose very much at all... so sometimes ‘low fat’ options end up being more disruptive to BG than regular versions.

The really tricky thing is that blood glucose responses to various foods are highly individual, and it can be impossible to say which types and amounts of carbohydrate will ‘spike’ your BG without checking for yourself.

You can use a BG meter, taking a reading before and again 2hrs after eating, to see what the differences are, to identify any carbs that seem to be spiking BG (initially in a way the numbers themselves matter less than the differences between them). Once you can see how you respond to different meals you can begin experimenting with reducing amounts of carbs and trying different types (sometimes just having things at a different time of day makes a difference). Gradually tweaking and tailoring your menu to find one that suits your tastebuds, your waistline and your BG levels 🙂

If you would like to use a Bg meter to check how your SW meals are affecting your glucose levels the cost can vary widely - especially when it comes to the strips the meters use. The most affordable meters members here have found are the SD Gluco Navii or the Spirit Tee2 which both have test strips at around £8 for 50

Good luck, and keep asking questions!
Thank you very informative I am no idea I will get first one mentioned I am also 1 Yr 3 months remission cancer so this is an extra blow
 
Hi Jewels06 , and welcome to the forum.
Congrats on your weight loss, I hope you didn't find it too difficult. Different methods suit different people.
Do you feel that you need to lose some more?

Type 2 Diabetes is more about the body not being able deal with Carbohydrates properly/easily (they all turn into sugars when digested), than about weight as such. Thus one way or another cutting the amount of carbs you eat is important. I am/was a normal weight Thin Outside Fat Inside (TOFI) Type 2 diabetic.

The best way to know if you are making progress from your pre-diabetes is by getting a Blood Glucose meter and testing your levels. That way you can see whether you are eating the right food in the right quantities.
The figures I use are that I want any increase in Blood Glucose from before to after a meal to be under 2.0 mmol/L together with a maximum Blood Glucose level of below 8.0 mmol/L (though some people are stricter and say they need it to be below 7.8 mmol/L).
Thank you so much your reading near mine I am 43
Will get bg meter have. No idea what a reading should be ie 5.6 for ex
 
An Hba1c of 43 is only just pre-diabetic, so you have taken action good and early.
Don't worry about the one-off BG readings - they will vary because of the Caveman way that the liver dumps glucose into your bloodstream in a morning in order to give you the energy to go out and hunt/gather your breakfast!

The ones that matter most are the pre-meal and post meal ones. And then the 3month/6 month/yearly Glucose blood tests (HbA1C0 which needs to be under 42 (in new money) in order to be completely non-diabetic i.e below the pre-diabetic range.
 
welcome to the forum from me.
 
Welcome @Jewels06

Glad that you found us. Your diabetes risk has been picked up early and it is great that you are already looking to sort this out.

Keep in touch and keep the questions coming.
 
Thank you I know caught early if level goes to normal do I still have to watch carbs sugar etc never a chance to get diabetes again or I will always be prone
 
Thank you I know caught early if level goes to normal do I still have to watch carbs sugar etc never a chance to get diabetes again or I will always be prone

I think the honest answer is that we just don’t know.

There are those in clinical trials who have put their diabetes into remission (HbA1c below 48, with no need for medication), but the authors are still following up, and it is unclear how long this is maintained, and whether a return to previous eating habits would see the diabetes return.

Anecdotal stories from the forum would suggest that several members have found that if they ‘fall off the wagon’ their metabolisms begin to struggle again, so people here tend to look for a long-term ‘way of eating’ rather than a short term diet to fix things and then go back to eating anything and everything
 
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