Potentially Worrying News About Ozempic

MikeyBikey said:
I read about this in an Australian report but Googled and found in in the UK news.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Weight loss jabs like Ozempic linked to TEN deaths, officials confirm

There have also been 7,228 reports of nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea associated with the likes of Wegovy and Ozempic.
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The story acknowledges
A reported death or adverse reaction does not necessarily mean it has been caused by the medicine, only that someone had a suspicion it may have been.​

(I've no idea how likely it is that there have been deaths caused by the drugs. It's accepted that there can be unpleasant side effects.)
 
There has been at least one death in Austria I believe and other near misses in Europe including the UK with black market Ozempic which was found to be insulin or contaminated with insulin. There is such huge demand for it because of celeb culture and endorsement, that people have been prepared to get it at any cost and of course there is always someone prepared to make money if there is enough demand for something and a limited supply.
 
rebrascora said:
There has been at least one death in Austria I believe and other near misses in Europe including the UK with black market Ozempic which was found to be insulin or contaminated with insulin. There is such huge demand for it because of celeb culture and endorsement, that people have been prepared to get it at any cost and of course there is always someone prepared to make money if there is enough demand for something and a limited supply.
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There was a C4 (?) documentary about fake versions on the internet. Someone I know went through WW, SW, a gym prescription and an earlier weight loss drug with no joy. Now after two heart attacks and being diagnosed pre-diabetic they have switched to a Mediterranean diet and are losing weight. The side effects of the earlier drug were so bad I doubt they would use Ozempic if offered!
 
I see the BBC are reporting a death possibly linked to the weight loss drug Mounjaro. Two things caught my eye in this. In a comment she is described as carrying a wee amount of excess weight which must make my 11lb minuscule. The second is she got the prescription via an online pharmacy. Surely prescriptions for these drugs should only come via a GP, consultant or nurse practitioner?

www.bbc.com

Nurse's death linked to weight-loss drug Mounjaro approved on NHS

Susan McGowan from North Lanarkshire died two weeks after taking the drug tirzepatide, brand name Mounjaro.
www.bbc.com
 
Saw that reported on BBC Breakfast this morning. Very sad.

They were also careful to say that the link to starting the medication wasn’t proven. I think the death cert cited sepsis, pancreatitis, and organ failure as the cause, with the prescribed medication as a possible contributory factor.
 
There is a risk of pancreatitis associated with this medication though isn't there or am I thinking of another similar one.
Incredibly sad and heart goes out to her family and friends.

I personally don't think these drugs are the answer, because the weight loss is only maintained whilst on them, so I don't think this is a sustainable solution.
 
rebrascora said:
I personally don't think these drugs are the answer, because the weight loss is only maintained whilst on them, so I don't think this is a sustainable solution.
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It's not great, but it's not a great position we find ourselves in. Apart from these drugs there's bariatric surgery (not without its drawbacks, but it also works). And not much else that a doctor can prescribe and be reasonably sure will work. Beyond that there's just diet and exercise; the existence of about a billion different diets suggests none of them work that well, and exercise is generally good for us but most likely won't result in weight loss.
 
Most diets work to some extent for most people. The problem is that once the diet ends people put the weight back on plus a bit more and the food industry makes it really hard for people to stay on the straight and narrow.
I really couldn't believe how much advertising we are bombarded with everywhere we go for high carb foods until after diagnosis, when I was actively trying to resist it. There are large areas of the supermarket that I can now safely walk past without stopping and looking, because I have found a level of low carb which works for me and a shopping list which facilitates it, but it has taken me several years of experimenting and to a certain extent going against NHS advice to find something that works for me and is sustainable.
 
rebrascora said:
Most diets work to some extent for most people.
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For a limited period, yes. (And they tend to work about as well as each other.)
rebrascora said:
The problem is that once the diet ends people put the weight back on plus a bit more
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Exactly, so as a long term measure they mostly don't work. (As I understand it it's quite likely that losing and gaining weight like that is even worse than being overweight.)
rebrascora said:
but it has taken me several years of experimenting and to a certain extent going against NHS advice to find something that works for me and is sustainable.
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Diets can work for some people, especially when there's some big motivating factor like health. That doesn't seem likely to help the population overall, though (hasn't so far, anyway).

Maybe some strong state intervention would have a significant effect (making healthier food cheaper, less healthy food more expensive, etc.). I doubt we'll ever find out because of the political cost of trying.
 
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