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[martin1962]

Please excuse the indelicate title of the piece but this has become a topic dear to my heart, and near to somewhere else. Since starting metfartin (appropriately named) I have noticed the wind increase (as warned by various members here) but I also seem to be having to invest in quality periodicals as I seem to be spending a lot more time in the loo both in length of time and number of occasions per day. Much as I enjoy the opportunity to catch up on my reading I would rather do it in more enjoyable locations. Is that a normal effect and (again pardon the language) if so what the heck is coming out!!!! I have lost about a stone in the last few months so it ain't the food quantities, so what is it?

I have been asked to point out that the periodicals are for reading , we do have soft loo roll, just in case strange(r) rumours start about me.

 

[pav]

Metfartin is well known for the wind and tying one to the loo. Do you know if you are on the normal or slow release version of metfartin? If on the normal one its worth asking to be put on the slow release one as its more gentle on you.

 

[LeeLee]

How long ago did you start the met? My guts settled down (apart from the odd gale) after the first couple of months, and I never needed the slow release. I do find the effects return a bit if I over-indulge with the carbs, particularly if eaten at the same time as I take my tablet.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

I'm sure I read someone saying that one of Met's properties was to push carbs through 'without touching the sides'. I think reducing carb intake (which will most likely help BG in any case) can help with digestive upheaval?

 

[martin1962]

Thank you chaps. I was put onto the slow release one , think i've been on them about 4 months now

everydayupsanddowns: ah......that seems to be a possiblity. At least it explains the increase in outward mass. Sigh, more self control needed, thought I was doing quite well with the weight loss....drat

 

[itsallgood]

For me at least, carbs + metformin = rectal mayhem

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

Thank you chaps. I was put onto the slow release one , think i've been on them about 4 months now

everydayupsanddowns: ah......that seems to be a possiblity. At least it explains the increase in outward mass. Sigh, more self control needed, thought I was doing quite well with the weight loss....drat

Don't forget that low-carb/high-fat is often a very successful strategy for T2D, promoting weight loss with less hunger problems than low fat diets. So you don't necessarily need to deny yourself everything and go hungry... simply reduce carbs and increase protein and fat in its place. In the context of a low carb diet, eating more fat does not increase cholesterol it seems - in fact it often restored a much lower/healthier HDL/LDL/Trigs split.

I think Sweden has now adopted Low-carb/High-fat as it's standard dietary recommendation for T2D in the light of a 2012 study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22562179

 

[martin1962]

"simply reduce carbs and increase protein and fat " so I can still eat my fried bacon but cut down on the butty bit?? Maybe I've misunderstood somewhere along the line.

 

[LeeLee]

My cooked breakfast consists of egg, bacon, sausage, lots of tinned or grilled tomatoes and mushrooms. No toast/bread/bubble&squeak!

 

[trophywench]

Yup - cut down on anything with flour in it. Cake, pastry, biscuits, pasta ...

as well as sugar and spuds and bananas, oranges, pineapple .....

But all green veg are OK, so are berries. Why eat an apple when you have a medical condition that says strawberries are better for you ? LOL

 

[martin1962]

Yup - cut down on anything with flour in it. Cake, pastry, biscuits, pasta ...

as well as sugar and spuds and bananas, oranges, pineapple .....

But all green veg are OK, so are berries. Why eat an apple when you have a medical condition that says strawberries are better for you ? LOL

But the apple a day keeps the Dr away...I can't throw a strawberry hard enough to scare him !!

I've also lost track of the egg argument.....are they good for me or not , I remember that (Edwina) Curried eggs were unhealthy and could lead to (Major) problems.....but I thought they were still bad for cholestrol or is that dealing with a different disease?

Have boosted my veg intake over the last few months but the one thing I can't find a way to make palatable is lettuce...it's watery, tasteless and its' sole purpose seems to be to fill the bottom of salad bowls cheaply !! Apologies to rocket and the peppery ones , it that squishy characterless green icky one that unless you eat it in 20 seconds flat turns into water that gets me. I don't even think deep fat frying it in batter would help the poor thing. I'm sure it has its fans, I remember a pet tortoise loving it but its standards of enjoyment were...well it couldn't have had much to compare against if a lettuce leaf was the high point of its day. Rant over, a small lie down is now needed.

 

[zuludog]

I was put on tablets (forgotten which) that caused windy problems for a few months, but as my blood sugars were still at the upper limits or over, my doctor stopped them and changed to insulin injection.
This was a great improvement; BS are OK, and I feel much better and generally in control and can get on with. That was several years ago; I'm 63 now and have no signs of any problems with my feet or eyes
Don't worry about injection; the modern insulin pens and fine needles mean you don't feel anything, and you can tweak the dose yourself to accommodate changes in diet or exercise. I am on basal bolus; slow acting insulin once a day, and fast acting three times. Discuss this this with your doctor and see if he/she will consider such a change

 

[martin1962]

EEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKK, you said needle !! Ok it might be in the future but i refuse to consider it for now. I have a slight aversion to being poked with pointy things. Def the carbs causing the damage, was bad a few days ago, lived off sammiches and beer for approx 12 hours......will either never do it again , or at least not do it during a walk in the countryside with little shelter and no trees. Just got nofication of an apt in December with the vampire so this is where I find out if I have been doing well. Lost some weight, bit fitter, nothing has dropped off, all positive but the proof of the pudding is in the ..... mmmmmmmmmmm pudding.........drool drool.

 

[trophywench]

I'd rather give meself 5 insulin jabs a day for the rest of me life than visit the vampire once!

And I'd rather donate blood twice a year for ever, than visit her.

But when it's summat you have to do, like being T1 and HAVING to - you just do it and there it is. Nobody 'likes' it. It's a choice of do that or die, so there just IS no choice! Whereas of course many T2s are able to avoid jabs for a long time or for ever, if they take hold of their diabetes from asap after diagnosis and get on with Being in Charge of it.

Insulin jabs by the way don't hurt like ordinary jabs. For instance many jabs for other things are intra-muscular (flu jabs for instance) and though there is a way of them not hurting - by letting the arm completely dangle, no muscles being used at all - no hands on laps - or worse! - elbows on nursie's desk - HCPs rarely bother to explain this and so you tense up in dread and yes, it does hurt. At the time and afterwards.

Anyway insulin jabs are only subcutaneous - ie they go into the space immediately below the dermis (the outside layer of the skin) so unless you hit a capillary which doesn't happen very often (maybe 1 in 100 jabs or something) you should feel absolutely nothing whatever.

 

[Bloden]

Thanks for the laugh, you lot. There's nothing better than potty humour! But seriously tho, t2dm sounds like hard work. I didn't realise...

 

[Bloden]

I hate needles too but injecting four times a day in stomach area has never bothered me. But flu jabs, blood tests, etc are the worst. The 2 types of injection are completely different. Good luck captain guff-pants! Hope u sort your problem out soon.