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Planthood - Sugar - Questions Type 2

skippyinspace

skippyinspace

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Type 2
So Ive had a weight gain and now hg a reading of 58. Mainly from junk food, stress eating from depression and B12 level of 140, stared B12 loading last week.

Had my lecture of dont buy it so you cant eat it . Mentioned I was using planthood for 3 meals a week and the question about hidden sugars in the sauces. Planthood claim its sauces all chef made, natural etc and I do feel as though Im eating heathly when eating them.

So the question is how much carbohydrates / Sugar should I be looking at

Thanks
 
Well bearing in mind with Type 2 diabetes it's suggested you should be looking to limit your total carbohydrate intake to 130g per day and the first meal I looked at contained 92g of carb - that doesn't leave you very much for the rest of the day.
 
skippyinspace said:
So Ive had a weight gain and now hg a reading of 58. Mainly from junk food, stress eating from depression and B12 level of 140, stared B12 loading last week.

Had my lecture of dont buy it so you cant eat it . Mentioned I was using planthood for 3 meals a week and the question about hidden sugars in the sauces. Planthood claim its sauces all chef made, natural etc and I do feel as though Im eating heathly when eating them.

So the question is how much carbohydrates / Sugar should I be looking at

Thanks
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A quick glance at their meals reveals that they are pretty high in carbs even if you are only having them 3 times a week.
I assume you are vegan and if so there are much lower carb vegan recipes which you could make.
The meals may be healthy for those who are not Type 2 diabetic being chef made doesn't mean they are suitable.
Taking some action now you will hopefully be able to reduce your HbA1C.
If you are not vegan then there are some recipes and meal plans in this link including a vegetarian one https://lowcarbfreshwell.com/
They are based on a suggested no more than 130g carbs not just sugar per day.
 
trophywench said:
Well bearing in mind with Type 2 diabetes it's suggested you should be looking to limit your total carbohydrate intake to 130g per day and the first meal I looked at contained 92g of carb - that doesn't leave you very much for the rest of the day.
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That value came from 'dietary' recommendations and is based on a vague idea of how much glucose is required for the brain in a day. The body can create glucose when it needs to, so it's a meaningless figure.

How many carbs a T2 can 'handle' is based on level of insulin resistance, medication, exercise, level of beta functionality and probably other factors. And should be based on keeping fasting levels good and post-meal level in a good range.
 
harbottle said:
That value came from 'dietary' recommendations and is based on a vague idea of how much glucose is required for the brain in a day. The body can create glucose when it needs to, so it's a meaningless figure.

How many carbs a T2 can 'handle' is based on level of insulin resistance, medication, exercise, level of beta functionality and probably other factors. And should be based on keeping fasting levels good and post-meal level in a good range.
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I agree with your last statement but when somebody is just starting out making changes and they haven't a clue then it is a good starting point, gets them into the mindset of taking note of what carbs they are actually eating.
 
Leadinglights said:
I agree with your last statement but when somebody is just starting out making changes and they haven't a clue then it is a good starting point, gets them into the mindset of taking note of what carbs they are actually eating.
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It's of no use to anybody. Facebook is full of T2s thinking this figure is an 'allowance' due to the lousy information being passed around. And then they are wondering why their blood sugar is still sky high.
 
trophywench said:
Well bearing in mind with Type 2 diabetes it's suggested you should be looking to limit your total carbohydrate intake to 130g per day and the first meal I looked at contained 92g of carb - that doesn't leave you very much for the rest of the day.
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This is one possible management option not a blanket rule
 
Leadinglights said:
A quick glance at their meals reveals that they are pretty high in carbs even if you are only having them 3 times a week.
I assume you are vegan and if so there are much lower carb vegan recipes which you could make.
The meals may be healthy for those who are not Type 2 diabetic being chef made doesn't mean they are suitable.
Taking some action now you will hopefully be able to reduce your HbA1C.
If you are not vegan then there are some recipes and meal plans in this link including a vegetarian one https://lowcarbfreshwell.com/
They are based on a suggested no more than 130g carbs not just sugar per day.
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I am finding that the links on that site you gave link for, are not working for me.. are they for you? Thanks
 
Dwermer said:
I am finding that the links on that site you gave link for, are not working for me.. are they for you? Thanks
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I am not @Leadinglights but I can access the website she referenced.
I haven't clicked every link but not had any issues with those I have.
 
@skippyinspace as you can see there is no agreed amount of how many carbs you can/should eat :rofl: . However, some of us did go down the no more than 130g/day route and have benefited from it but, that doesn't necessarily mean it works for everyone..
My recommendation, to be adjusted as you need, is to use a finger prick checker to see what types of foods cause your BG to spike. Testing immediately before meals and 2 hours after you started eating will provide you with information on how you BG has responded to food. Those foods that don't cause spikes are the one you should probably eat more regularly and those that do, you need to decide if a smaller portion might reduce the impact or whether to stop eating that specific food. Through this approach you can start to build up a picture of what is good for you as a unique individual.
Overtime as things change and your body gets use to a modified diet you may find that you can eat certain simple carbs without spiking your BG. For example, I now eat small amounts of basmati rice (<60g cooked) and potatoes (<= 3 small ones).
I did check some sites about the amount of carbs in a single meal and the view is that it should be in the range of 45g to 60g/meal, so you 92g of carbs meal is probably a bit too much.
Good luck and don't forget that despite the differing views, this is still a great place to get advice and information. The range of opinions just reflect a)that we are all individuals and things may not work the same for us and b)even the diabetes "experts" who telling us how we should manage our diabetes don't necessarily have all the answers.
 
skippyinspace said:
So the question is how much carbohydrates / Sugar should I be looking at
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Good luck in developing your own way of eating that suits you and your body @skippyinspace

Sugar is often a bit of a red herring IMO. There are many things which have virtually no ‘sugar’ (sucrose) but which the body will happily absorb at lightning speed. Little or no sucrose in an item doesn’t necessarily mean it will be slowly absorbed.

Where sugars are added to things to improve palatability, those can increase the total carbohydrate content vs items without the added sugar, but all of that information can be gleaned from the total carbs really. It’s total carbs I concentrate on more.

As you can tell the ‘right’ amount of carbs to aim per day can be highly individual, and some need to aim a lot lower, while others have a higher tolerance. Starting to keep a food diary, and tracking your total carb intake per day on everything you eat and drink can be a practical way of spotting which meals are your ‘big hitters’, and where a few simple swaps or exchanges might reduce your overall carb load while retaining an enjoyable and flexible meal plan.

Small, incremental steps can be an easier way to shift your way of eating to make it more diabetes-friendly, rather than going all-out all at once.

Good luck, and let us know how things go.
 
harbottle said:
It's of no use to anybody. Facebook is full of T2s thinking this figure is an 'allowance' due to the lousy information being passed around. And then they are wondering why their blood sugar is still sky high.
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My understanding from reading several posts on the forum is most type 2s before diagnosis typically eat a fairly high carb diet. Reducing it to around 130g carbs is a starting point which you can then refine based on your blood glucose monitoring.
I vary my carb intake depending on the amount of exercise I do and what my FP readings are. Recently the hot weather also affects my levels.
The main thing I have learned is everyone's diabetes management is quite individual. What works for some may not suit others. There are no hard and fast rules, only guidelines and experience to help us live with diabetes.
 
Thanks for that everyone, Ill take this information on.
 
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