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Overwhelmed...4 year old son just diagnosed with T1

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Hi,
I’m feeling completely overwhelmed and still in a state of shock. My son is 4 and early stages of T1. His blood sugars have normalised after an acute episode of high blood sugars...what the Dr is calling ‘honeymoon period’...he is starting insulin on Thursday as apparently the sooner he starts, the better it is for him in the long term, and it goes without saying that I’m dreading it. I’m just terrified of the unknown and also his reaction to all of the injections. Support and advice greatly appreciated...
 
Hi,
I’m feeling completely overwhelmed and still in a state of shock. My son is 4 and early stages of T1. His blood sugars have normalised after an acute episode of high blood sugars...what the Dr is calling ‘honeymoon period’...he is starting insulin on Thursday as apparently the sooner he starts, the better it is for him in the long term, and it goes without saying that I’m dreading it. I’m just terrified of the unknown and also his reaction to all of the injections. Support and advice greatly appreciated...
Hi @Jem83, welcome to the forum 🙂 I'm very sorry to hear about your son's diagnosis :( I'm surprised he hasn't been started immediately on insulin, there doesn't seem to be any reason for the delay. However, I can assure you that, as soon as he starts receiving it he will feel considerably better, so it will be a positive step. How did his diagnosis come about?

Please try not to worry, although I know that is difficult. Although diabetes is a serious condition it is manageable and will not prevent him from achieving anything in life that he should wish to in the future - there are many, many people here who are evidence of that, and there are people with Type 1 diabetes in every sphere of life, from the Prime Minister to top sportsmen and women competing at the very highest levels 🙂 There are lots of treatments available and technology is making things much better to manage with every passing week.

I would highly recommend getting hold of a copy of Type 1 Diabetes in Children Adolescents and Young People by Ragnar Hanas. It is an excellent reference and guide to all aspects of living with Type 1 diabetes, and it will help you to understand the various challenges it can present in a very readable, accessible way 🙂 I'd also recommend, for yourself, reading Adrienne's essential guide for parents of newly-diagnosed children, written by one of our members whose own daughter was diagnosed almost from the moment of birth.

Please don't worry about the injections. The needles are tiny and very fine and don't hurt at all, they are not like the injections you get for things like flu jabs as they only need to inject just under the skin.

Please let us know if you have ANY questions at all, there is a wealth of knowledge and experience here and we will be more than happy to help ease your concerns or help you understand anything that might be worrying or confusing you 🙂 No question is considered 'silly', except the question which isn't asked!

Please also keep us informed. Should he become sick at all before Thursday I would urge you to seek immediate medical help, there is no valid reason I can see for delaying insulin. Good luck 🙂
 
Thank you for your reply and support. I feel completely lost with all of this. I’m just heartbroken for my little boy and worried about his future.
We thought he had a UTI, his urine was tested and a concerned GP sent us to hospital for blood sugar monitoring. My son was also taking a steroid for croup at the time (he’s also asthmatic) so they wondered if it was steroid induced diabetes. After antibody tests and two high Hb1Ac test results they’re saying it’s type 1 in its early stages. His blood sugars are normal at the moment and he is not unwell in himself at all. The symptoms he had (frequent urination and thirst) only lasted a number of days while he was in hospital. That’s why it is so difficult to process because he doesn’t seem poorly at all, he seems to have gotten over the croup and his blood sugars are now in the normal range.
The Dr said this is a ‘honeymoon period’ where the pancreas is still producing some insulin athe T1 has been detected early. It just seems cruel to be starting him with injections when he seems well, if that makes sense.
I’m glad to hear the needles are not typical of those he gets for his jabs...I know nothing about diabetes and this is going to be a steep learning curve and huge adjustment for us all
 
Thank you for your reply and support. I feel completely lost with all of this. I’m just heartbroken for my little boy and worried about his future.
We thought he had a UTI, his urine was tested and a concerned GP sent us to hospital for blood sugar monitoring. My son was also taking a steroid for croup at the time (he’s also asthmatic) so they wondered if it was steroid induced diabetes. After antibody tests and two high Hb1Ac test results they’re saying it’s type 1 in its early stages. His blood sugars are normal at the moment and he is not unwell in himself at all. The symptoms he had (frequent urination and thirst) only lasted a number of days while he was in hospital. That’s why it is so difficult to process because he doesn’t seem poorly at all, he seems to have gotten over the croup and his blood sugars are now in the normal range.
The Dr said this is a ‘honeymoon period’ where the pancreas is still producing some insulin athe T1 has been detected early. It just seems cruel to be starting him with injections when he seems well, if that makes sense.
I’m glad to hear the needles are not typical of those he gets for his jabs...I know nothing about diabetes and this is going to be a steep learning curve and huge adjustment for us all
It does sound like they have caught it in the early stages then Jem, which is very good news as in many cases things aren't recognised until things become very critical. The 'honeymoon period' is as your GP describes, and can be an awkward time because it can make it a little unpredictable. However, you will hopefully be given the tools and advice you need in order to keep him safe and happy 🙂 The HbA1c test measures a sort of average blood glucose level over the 6-12 weeks prior to the test, and if this is higher than normal then it suggests that, whilst the steroids may have been partly responsible for the elevation in his levels, the problem probably started before the steroids played their part, they have just made it more apparent. It is possible that he may be moved to an insulin pump at some time - although this can take a little getting used to it will be much more flexible in the long term and only requires a cannula change every few days rather than injection. It may be considered unnecessary at the moment. There is also a device called the Freestlye Libre which is a little sensor which you stick on the arm and can then scan with a smartphone or reader to see what the blood glucose levels are - these devices can save a lot of finger prick blood tests, so worth asking about if they are not mentioned 🙂

From what I have read from the experiences of most parents, the children probably get used to the fingerpricks and injections far quicker than the parents, but I hope that you all can get used to it very quickly. Don't pressure yourself or get overwhelmed by everything, help is always available so take things at your own pace. You do not have to do this alone 🙂
 
Thank you for your insight and kind words of support. I’m still in shock that this is happening to him, but hopefully we can make sure it has a minimum impact on his childhood and his life. There’s so much to learn
 
Hi Jem

Welcome to the forum, that no one wants to need to join. I am sorry to hear about your son’s diagnosis, but pleased that they have picked it up so early. It is a lot to take in at the start, but the book you have ordered is an excellent resource. I still use it 10 years on. It is well written and things are clearly explained.

As Northerner has said there is plenty of support available on here and there are a number of parents who have been/are giong through what you are. The Diabetes should not stop your son diong anything, it just takes some organising and planning, but for now just be assured that it does get easier.

The idea of injecting insulin seems a bit daunting at the start, but it soon becomes part of a new normal life. If you are able to get the Libre sensors they are great for getting a clear picture of what is happening, and for your peace of mind overnight.

Keep in touch, there is plenty of help available on here.
 
Diabetes is not a thing I'd wish on even my worst enemy, but having said that - all it is really is ruddy tedious, mainly. Can I please highly recommend that you ask to inject yourself with saline/sterile water, obviously not insulin, using an insulin pen and needle. I say this because it's utterly incredible that you cannot even feel the needle going in!

Thus - you will not be scared that you are going to hurt your little un, when jabbing him and hence not communicate your fear to him.

You'll be under the care of a paediatric diabetes team at the hospital and the specialist nurses there are you and your son's best mates from now on in - you'll get a mobile phone number and be shown what to do/educated how to do it. Use her/him - if you and other parents didn't have T1 children - she wouldn't be there. The position exists solely to HELP.

Good luck to both of you!
 
Hi jem
Hi,
I’m feeling completely overwhelmed and still in a state of shock. My son is 4 and early stages of T1. His blood sugars have normalised after an acute episode of high blood sugars...what the Dr is calling ‘honeymoon period’...he is starting insulin on Thursday as apparently the sooner he starts, the better it is for him in the long term, and it goes without saying that I’m dreading it. I’m just terrified of the unknown and also his reaction to all of the injections. Support and advice greatly appreciated...
Sorry to hear about your son, I know exactly how you feel my 7 year old boy was diagnosed a month ago I too thought he had a water infection and was fit and well at the time we are on insulin before every meal and before bed now and carb counting . We too caught it in the early stages.
This forum is great you will have good days and bad and he will cope with it well as my son it they cope better than we do I have spent most of the day crying in-between jobs some days it is hard to accept that this is happening to you and your little boy .you will be fine and once you get started with the insulin it's not as bad as you first think . X
 
Thank you so much everyone...it is certainly reassuring to hear about your experiences. I’m struggling to process how this will all fit into his normal life at the moment...I guess we’ll all have a new kind of ‘normal’ from now on.
It’s just little things like giving my little boy snacks...will he not be able to have a cereal bar mid morning for example...or have a biscuit with a glass of milk?! I know it sounds silly but I feel so sad that he will be deprived of such simple things.
I also have a little girl who is 2, and I think i’ll have to change how we approach snacks/treats as a whole family so it doesn’t seem unfair to him.

It’s reassuring to hear the insulin injections are not painful, and I’ll certainly take your advice trophywench about trying the pen myself with sterile water.

I’m struggling today because he is asking questions such as when will he be all better with no more tests for special numbers in his blood...I just don’t know how to say that this is his life now. It all feels so unfair
And I’m terrified about dealing with hypos in the middle of the night, or missing a hypo in the middle of the night. Like I say...it feels overwhelming. But I am thankful for all of your kind words of support. Thank you
 
Hi jem

Sorry to hear about your son, I know exactly how you feel my 7 year old boy was diagnosed a month ago I too thought he had a water infection and was fit and well at the time we are on insulin before every meal and before bed now and carb counting . We too caught it in the early stages.
This forum is great you will have good days and bad and he will cope with it well as my son it they cope better than we do I have spent most of the day crying in-between jobs some days it is hard to accept that this is happening to you and your little boy .you will be fine and once you get started with the insulin it's not as bad as you first think . X


Rookie...did your son start slowly and build up to the insulin dosage that he now takes? How long did it take to get to the point you’re at now? Did your son also have a ‘honeymoon period’?
Sorry for so many questions
 
I still have snacks, it is just that I take some insulin to go with it. The specialist team will teach you how to do all this, and it really will be, as you said, your new normal life. Keep asking. We are here to help.
 
Hello and welcome 🙂
Sorry to hear about your little son's diagnosis. As others have said, you will have a specialist team to help you both and hopefully soon you will be advised how to carb count, which will make life easier and your son can still have his snacks 🙂
I'm tagging @Bronco Billy as he has two children with type 1, so understands how you feel and advocates for the young with this condition. The parent board on here will be helpful for you to converse with other parents.
@HOBIE was diagnosed aged 3 and is still going strong 🙂
There are regular meet ups around the Country where families can get together for support.
Take one day at a time and let us know how you are getting on 🙂
 
Rookie...did your son start slowly and build up to the insulin dosage that he now takes? How long did it take to get to the point you’re at now? Did your son also have a ‘honeymoon period’?
Sorry for so many questions
Hi jem.
No as soon as we where diagnosed they started him on insulin we where in for 3 days we couldn't come away until they where happy I was ok doing his injections and had met with the nurses and dietitians.he is still in his honeymoon period and could be for months that is the problem nobody knows when that will end . He was diagnosed on 12th October we have been doing well adjusting to the new life today has been our first bad day really he is full of cold so his bloods have been high I had to give a correction dose of insulin which I hadn't done before but it's all fine the nurses are great and are on the phone any time you need them. He will adjust so well as my son is as I say it's us mums who struggle I'm all over the place some days , but it's nice to talk to other people and mums as I don't know anybody with this . X
 
Hi jem.
No as soon as we where diagnosed they started him on insulin we where in for 3 days we couldn't come away until they where happy I was ok doing his injections and had met with the nurses and dietitians.he is still in his honeymoon period and could be for months that is the problem nobody knows when that will end . He was diagnosed on 12th October we have been doing well adjusting to the new life today has been our first bad day really he is full of cold so his bloods have been high I had to give a correction dose of insulin which I hadn't done before but it's all fine the nurses are great and are on the phone any time you need them. He will adjust so well as my son is as I say it's us mums who struggle I'm all over the place some days , but it's nice to talk to other people and mums as I don't know anybody with this . X


Its great to hear your little boy is adjusting and coping so well...I hope and pray that my little boy is the same
I absolutely agree that it is important to talk to other parents who are going through this with their children. I feel like an emotional wreck today but am also feeling angry, resentful and frustrated at the situation and what my son will have to deal with. I guess it’s natural to experience this range of emotions.
It seems like such a complicated condition to learn about and deal with...but we’ll get there. We have to for our children’s sake don’t we...
The support on this forum has already been so reassuring
 
Its great to hear your little boy is adjusting and coping so well...I hope and pray that my little boy is the same
I absolutely agree that it is important to talk to other parents who are going through this with their children. I feel like an emotional wreck today but am also feeling angry, resentful and frustrated at the situation and what my son will have to deal with. I guess it’s natural to experience this range of emotions.
It seems like such a complicated condition to learn about and deal with...but we’ll get there. We have to for our children’s sake don’t we...
The support on this forum has already been so reassuring
Hi Jem

All your emotions are perfectly normal in such a situation. @trophywench is well versed on the stages of grief, and perhaps she will put in the link for this for you.

Diabetes is a bit complicated, but it is manageable. It is just that we all have to hit the ground running at the start. However, it is a marathon not a sprint. So try to be patient with yourself, and just take things step, by step, draw on the help that you will have access to through the paediatricdiabetes team. They are there for you. Keep in touch and just ask about anything that is worrying you, or just come and have a rant, wail, ....
You are always welcome.
 
Hi,
I’m feeling completely overwhelmed and still in a state of shock. My son is 4 and early stages of T1. His blood sugars have normalised after an acute episode of high blood sugars...what the Dr is calling ‘honeymoon period’...he is starting insulin on Thursday as apparently the sooner he starts, the better it is for him in the long term, and it goes without saying that I’m dreading it. I’m just terrified of the unknown and also his reaction to all of the injections. Support and advice greatly appreciated...
Hi Jem 83. As a parent it Must be hard. I have 2 big kids & with lots of hard work am now 55. Diagnosed when 3 in the 60s & never been unemployed in my life. Please keep at it & really good luck. 😉
 
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Hi jem.
No as soon as we where diagnosed they started him on insulin we where in for 3 days we couldn't come away until they where happy I was ok doing his injections and had met with the nurses and dietitians.he is still in his honeymoon period and could be for months that is the problem nobody knows when that will end . He was diagnosed on 12th October we have been doing well adjusting to the new life today has been our first bad day really he is full of cold so his bloods have been high I had to give a correction dose of insulin which I hadn't done before but it's all fine the nurses are great and are on the phone any time you need them. He will adjust so well as my son is as I say it's us mums who struggle I'm all over the place some days , but it's nice to talk to other people and mums as I don't know anybody with this . X
Well done Rookie 😉
 
Hi Jem83. Welcome to the place no-one wants to be 🙂

Thanks @Lucy Honeychurch for tagging me. I would have answered last night, but I was on swimming club duty with the not-so-little ones, so I didn’t have time to visit the forum yesterday.

That’s more or less where I want to start. My two type 1 children both have swimming coaching. They were already members of the club when they were diagnosed. Yes, we had to make adjustments (and there were one or two scary moments when they were in the pool and I suspected they were hypo) but we found a way and carried on. You will do the same. You might not think it now, but you will, Scouts honour. My daughter even swam competitively for the club after she was diagnosed. She’s studying hard for her GCSE’s next year and is expected to smash them! I’m not saying any of this to show off (honest guv’) but to show you that his future can still be bright. You and he are still in charge of it.

Children are more resilient and adaptable than we often give them credit for. He might be asking lots of questions now, but that's because he’s dealing with some big changes, he will adapt and cope. No doubt you are being honest with him, and that is exactly the right approach. Even though it was nearly nine years ago, I still remember clearly the night I took my son to A&E for what I knew was going to be a type 1 diagnosis. He asked me if he had it too like his sister did. I wanted to lie, tell him he didn’t have it, that he would get better, but I knew I had to look him in the eyes and tell him the truth. He took it better than I did.

Everything you are feeling now is absolutely normal, all the emotions; the resentment, the fear, the anger and the frustration. If you could, you’d swap places with him. Am I right? My wife and I felt exactly the same. Those feelings will give way to a sense of duty to help your son with his new life. You phrased it very accurately when you described your lives as a new kind of normal! That is exactly what it is. Everything you are doing now that seems strange and difficult will become routine and relatively straightforward to the point where you won’t really notice you are doing anything different.

The honeymoon period will make things more difficult, I can’t lie, but looking at it positively, when it does end, his blood sugars and responses to food will become more predictable and easier to manage. Our son was diagnosed more quickly than our daughter simply because we saw it coming a mile off. This led to him having a honeymoon period, which his sister didn’t have as she was so far down the line when she was diagnosed. He was particularly unpredictable at night, when his pancreas was at its most active. His hospital team took the decision to put him on a pump instead of injections. If your son has the same experience, don’t be shy in asking your team about going on a pump. They might not think a pump would be suitable for him at this stage for reasons they will no doubt explain, but there’s no harm in asking if you think a pump might help.

The Ragnar Hanas book is excellent, it is considered to be the bible for parents as far as type 1 is concerned.

If your son wants a snack, don’t be afraid to let him have one. Children with type 1 often need one to maintain the right level of glucose in their system anyway, especially in the evening to sustain them through the night. Our children used to have a snack mid-morning, mid-afternoon and supper in the evening. This is particularly applicable to those on injections. Your dietician will help you with good choices of snack. Ours used to have a 10 carb biscuit in the morning, an 18 carb cereal bar in the afternoon and supper would be a mixture of things, biscuits, fruit, yogurt etc. Well, I say “used to”, old habits die hard (especially for a growing lad) and although they don’t strictly need those snacks now, they still have them. My daughter will occasionally not eat one, but my son is like me, he likes his food too much, so is still a regular snacker. He’s on a seafood diet, if he sees food, he eats it! 😉 Your son doesn’t have to be deprived of any food, it just has to me managed. I completely understand why you want the whole family to change their eating habits, and it’s totally up to you what you do. The approach my wife and I took was to carry on as normal as far as we and their non-type 1 younger sister were concerned. We felt it was important for them to be aware that while they are just the same as their peers in so many ways, they are also different and have to approach certain parts of everyday life accordingly. We knew that as they grew older and started spending time with friends that their friends would still stuff their faces with fast food etc., so we wanted them both to get used to this early on.

This won’t be any consolation and is really aimed at helping you realise that you’re not alone or unusual in how you feel, but night time hypos are one of the scariest aspects of caring for a child with type 1. As part of another hat I wear, a survey was conducted among parents aimed at finding out what their hopes and fears were, and what concerned them most. Guess what, hypos, and especially night time hypos, came out on top! On the Facebook groups, there is always someone around at three in the morning to ask and answer a question. It’s a sort of in joke among parents of type 1 children.

You are spot on! It is a complicated condition, far more complicated than a lot of people realise. Every day, you will become more experienced and knowledgeable. Every day, you will learn something new. Daunting, yes, but look at it this way, every day you will be better at caring for your son than you were the day before.

A diagnosis sometimes changes parents as people. It made me a more positive person. I used to be quite a pessimist (because a pessimist is never disappointed, right?) but I knew I couldn’t be like that in respect of diabetes. I realised that my behaviour and attitude towards it would shape how my children felt about it. I wanted them to see diabetes as something they had to live and deal with, but not something that would define them as people.

Sure, it’s tough now, it’s the start of a long road, but one that gets easier to navigate. You’ve got support from your hospital team and here, so there’s always someone to help. No question is too silly. Your posts tell me you’re already doing a great job. Get yourself a bottle of wine for the weekend! You deserve it. 🙂
 
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