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Ralph-YK

Ralph-YK

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I self refered to the x-pert course a little bit ago. I'm now on something with a different name (not DESMOND) and will be doing the first session on Thursday. It's three 2.5 hours sessions (with breaks). The info I have on x-pert says that was six sessions. So half the time.
I saw someone from the Expert Patient Programme today who says they're not doing X-pert in the area anymore. So I've missed out on that.
Wondering how it's go as I'm having problems concertraiting/taking things in.
 
As I understand it different areas call the education programmes by different names, and they can also vary in content.
 
Hope the course goes well Ralph, let us know how you get on 🙂 Whilst these various courses may have different set topic lists, I think much of the benefit comes if you are fortunate to get a good instructor and a sociable group to share notes with 🙂
 
I am doing the 6session Xpert diabetes course. 2nd week this week
 
We have DESMOND in my area. Two sessions of 2.5/3 hours. I met someone today who said they did it in 2009. Apparently it was 2 full days.
I'm under the impresses that DESMOND (which I've already done) is available in several areas, as is X-pert. I was also able to do x-pert it seems. However, they are now doing something different, which is what I'm starting this week

Northerner said:
I think much of the benefit comes if you are fortunate to get a good instructor and a sociable group to share notes with 🙂
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There wasn't a chance to interact much with the others on the DESMOND course I did.
 
I've discovered today that food doesn't end up as glucose in the blood. Apparently. (I had to ask to question to get this.)
There's supposed to be a urine test. I've never had one. In my entire life as far as I remember.
A lot of things took us to how my GPs tell you nothing.

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Having slept on it (not enought thou. Maybe 5 hourse), I'm going to say it was a good start to the course. I think the person running it a Diabetic Specialist Nurse. The DESMOND course had a dietican. I'm not sure what the second person on DESMOND was. We spent less time on rusty locks than DESMOND (they did locks, not rusty ones). This was a short video they'd got from somewhere.
Also told us it was a new course, they'd taken provision on themselves and started doing it a few months ago.
Next week it's going to be on food (although we got some on food yesterday).
 
Ralph-YK said:
Having slept on it (not enought thou. Maybe 5 hourse), I'm going to say it was a good start to the course. I think the person running it a Diabetic Specialist Nurse. The DESMOND course had a dietican. I'm not sure what the second person on DESMOND was. We spent less time on rusty locks than DESMOND (they did locks, not rusty ones). This was a short video they'd got from somewhere.
Also told us it was a new course, they'd taken provision on themselves and started doing it a few months ago.
Next week it's going to be on food (although we got some on food yesterday).
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Good to hear this course appears to be an improvement Ralph - interesting to compare the two 🙂 Hope things go well next week 🙂
 
Ralph - is this the Leeds Plan you are on? We had someone come to the Leeds Group meeting to tell us all about it.
 
I guess so. Letter I have says Leeds Programme.
 
Well, I missed the middle one (on food, however I got to do a carbohydrate awareness session on Thursday, and there was a bit about food in the first session). I've found what I've attended, and the Diabetic Specialist Nurse, very good. The nurse said how she supported patients self testing.
I've been on the list to do a carbohydrate awareness session closer to home a while now. Hopefully I can get to do a (vertual?) supermarket tour this week. I don't know what that will involve. I've self referred to that (again for closer to where I live) for a year or more. So, from self referral maybe 10/12 weeks ago I've got to do some informative sessions. Compared to a year and more with who I've been dealing with before.
 
Ralph-YK said:
Well, I missed the middle one (on food, however I got to do a carbohydrate awareness session on Thursday, and there was a bit about food in the first session). I've found what I've attended, and the Diabetic Specialist Nurse, very good. The nurse said how she supported patients self testing.
I've been on the list to do a carbohydrate awareness session closer to home a while now. Hopefully I can get to do a (vertual?) supermarket tour this week. I don't know what that will involve. I've self referred to that (again for closer to where I live) for a year or more. So, from self referral maybe 10/12 weeks ago I've got to do some informative sessions. Compared to a year and more with who I've been dealing with before.
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Good stuff Ralph, glad you have managed to get some information - well done for being so proactive 🙂
 
Ralph-YK said:
I've discovered today that food doesn't end up as glucose in the blood. Apparently.
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Martin Canty said:
Enlightening, so what does it end up as when we have an excess of carbs?
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Food does not equal carbs. Food is meat and fruit and carbs and vegetables and dairy and beans and pulses.
Now carbs does become blood glucose, regardless of in excess or not.
From what was said.
 
Sort-of Ralph - not 100% black and white though.

In the total (or almost total) absence of carbs (think of Mr Ugg the prehistoric bloke, hunting woolly mammoth for the BBQ, Mrs Ugg gathering berries - Or Mr Igloo the Inuit and his fave feast of whale blubber) the body can also convert both protein and fat to glucose. It's much harder work for the body, to convert a lump of meat or blubber to glucose though. Far easier for a body to just spray the slice of bread or spud with insulin - the latter = instant glucose!
 
Maybe I got the simple version. With what they said on the carb awareness day, it amounts to carbs, along with sugary foods, is the thing to watch.
 
trophywench said:
convert a lump of meat or blubber to glucose
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Fat cannot be converted to Glucose (from what I have read), instead it converts fat to ketone bodies for energy, which is the core principle of the Ketogenic Diet.
 
Absolutely true Martin - if we get down to the minutiae.

Not a thing the Joint Matric Board put in their O Level Biology syllabus in 1960 though - so I freely admit I've only picked up the basics as a diabetic since they invented the internet, LOL

I daresay that yer average diabetic in the street isn't actually aware of mitochondria in action and the fact that red blood cells don't have em - either! However - the latter does support the reason why we need body fat ! LOL
 
I've just finished the Xpert 6week course. Very informative but delivered so that you had a chance to go back over things and good to hear other people's questions.now to follow my goal and focus on one way of deciding whether to be a low carb follower or an eat well plate person or look at the mysteries of mediterainian Diet.one great thing is that the two ladies who ran the course will check and sort out a referral for dietician and DSN which seems to have got lost
 
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