NHS 10-year plan: Labour attacks Theresa May's proposals

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Theresa May's 10-year plan for the NHS lacks both the staffing and funding to succeed, Labour has said.

The PM has promised the publication of the plan on Monday will lead to "world class" care for patients in England.

Pledges on maternity care, mental health, elderly support and earlier detection and prevention of diseases will be included in the plan.

But shadow health secretary Jonathan Ashworth said Mrs May was just trying to "clear up a mess that she has made".

Appearing on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show, Mr Ashworth said: "The funding isn't sufficient and the staffing isn't there."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46771200
 
Mr Asheorth is absolutely right. This is all a fantasy that would cost tens of billions more than the fake £20bn already promised. Who, might I ask, will make sacrifices to pay for this? The poor, I expect. It always is.
 
as someone who will have worked 40 years this year in the NHS, I would welcome more efficient use of the already generous funding settlements the sacred cow NHS receives; there is marked overstaffing in some areas and marked understaffing in others-this tends to be in critical staffing eg paediatricians, psychiatrists, pathologists, radiologists, diabetic paediatric specialist nurses, and worst of all, general practitioners, from now on: that's the weakness of a centrally directed too large to manage too large to fail organisation.
it always amuses that left wing commentators always complain that no amount of money is sufficient to fund any particular service, and the Resolution foundation came out with new ideas on how to tax the 'rich' last week, including tightening up on IHT which would eventually blunt any aspiration one might have for taking care of one's family.
those with a high income on PAYE are already paying their fair share I would argue,
1% of tax payers pay about 10% of income tax
5% of tax payers pay about 27-28% of income tax,
the top 5000 individual tax payers pay more than the bottom 50% of tax payers.
 
Last time I was in A &E there was 6 behind the front desk at 4am & 2 sets of Police ?o_O
 
post 4 correction: 1% of taxpayers pay 28% of all income tax, 5% pay over 40% of all tax but the general opinion is the same: do we really expect these people to pay an even greater tax contribution, marginal rates already reach 62% in England? would more money conjure from nowhere the GPs, radiologists, paediatricians, pathologists, paediatric diabetic specialist nurses, psychiatrists the service desperately needs and who do not exist?
 
When I worked in the nhs I used to hate these reorganisations, imo they seldom improved anything in fact they often had the opposite effect.
 
novonord said:
post 4 correction: 1% of taxpayers pay 28% of all income tax, 5% pay over 40% of all tax but the general opinion is the same: do we really expect these people to pay an even greater tax contribution, marginal rates already reach 62% in England? would more money conjure from nowhere the GPs, radiologists, paediatricians, pathologists, paediatric diabetic specialist nurses, psychiatrists the service desperately needs and who do not exist?
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Absolutely right, novonord. And it takes years to train all the specialists you mention. Previously, particularly in Psychiatry, foreign trained staff filled the gap. The government talks of increasing medical school places, but it’s no good if they then leave to work in Australia because the NHS is such a stressful job at the moment.

With regard to tax, Income Tax is far from being the largest source of income for the government. 75% comes from other taxes, such as corporation tax, VAT, tax on petrol, booze and smoking.
 
Stressful jobs but if you choose it then once trained should have to stay in our NHS for min of 5 years it costs so much to train people then they go to another country because our training is still seen as the best training ??
 
That’s illegal restraint of trade, I would have thought.
 
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