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[Scotsguy1966]

I think it’s pre diabetes ? I was 48 a few months ago with the blood test , was placed on
Statins too for high cholesterol .

Got results back last week and I’m at 44 now ! My cholesterol 3.3 . Been checking my blood g levels now and then . But not obsessively

. Today been all over the place . This morning before breakfast 8 am was 9 , two hours later after breakfast it was 9.7

! At 5 pm it was 6 then two hours after dinner it was highest it’s been which was 11.5 . So all rather confusing for me and trying to work out which foods causing the spikes ? Also waking up most nights around 4/5 am ? My diet is very good so still preplexed why I’m getting high levels ?

Any advice ? Thanks Jim

 

[Leadinglights]

I think it’s pre diabetes ? I was 48 a few months ago with the blood test , was placed on
Statins too for high cholesterol .

Got results back last week and I’m at 44 now ! My cholesterol 3.3 . Been checking my blood g levels now and then . But not obsessively

. Today been all over the place . This morning before breakfast 8 am was 9 , two hours later after breakfast it was 9.7

! At 5 pm it was 6 then two hours after dinner it was highest it’s been which was 11.5 . So all rather confusing for me and trying to work out which foods causing the spikes ? Also waking up most nights around 4/5 am ? My diet is very good so still preplexed why I’m getting high levels ?

Any advice ? Thanks Jim

Being unwell with an infection can push up blood glucose levels but it may depend on what you had for those meals, were they something you usually had that had been OK.
Is your monitor OK, does it need new batteries and are your test strips in date. Something on your fingers?
Looks as if your pre breakfast reading was high but your breakfast was OK but looks as if your dinner was too high carb, what did you have?
If you are getting up for the loo then it could be high blood glucose but could be a UTI which would also account for high blood glucose.
Make sure you stay hydrated as that should help but keep testing to check on what might be happening.

Well done though on your HbA1C and lowered cholesterol.

 

[Scotsguy1966]

Hi thanks for the reply . For breakfast I had two poached eggs with one rye bread . In the afternoon I had two medium bananas and 2mediun oranges plus 30 g pastachio nuts . Dinners was whole wheat pasta plus tinned tomatoes and some tomato mix from a jar too . I also had some tomatoes mixed with spinach . I always have to get up during the night for a pee and it tends to be around 4/5 I also have arthritis which can impact of my sleeping too . Thanks

 

[Scotsguy1966]

I don’t usually have pasta btw ! So wonder if it’s possibly due to that ? I suppose it’s trial and error .

 

[Martin.A]

Bananas are one of the highest carb fruits, which is why many of us avoid them. I haven't had one since the day I was diagnosed. Durum Wheat pasta is also high carb but a lot depends on what size portion you had, of course.

You're right - a lot of it is trial and error. Test before eating and again two hours later, having had nothing but water in between, and that's how to see what effect it had on BG. That's why it helps to keep a food diary.

 

[Leadinglights]

I don’t usually have pasta btw ! So wonder if it’s possibly due to that ? I suppose it’s trial and error .

I don’t usually have pasta btw ! So wonder if it’s possibly due to that ? I suppose it’s trial and error .

As you are only prediabetic I assume you are not on any medication so are managing your condition by diet only. If this is the case you are having some pretty high carb foods, 2 bananas and 2 oranges would add up to quite a few carbs which added to pasta again high carb could explain your high levels.
Many who are Type 2 would avoid bananas and restrict their other fruit to just 1 or have berries which are lower carb.
There is lower carb pasta made from edamame beans or black beans but jars of sauces are often high carb so watch those. Have a look at this link for some good information and some menu ideas https://lowcarbfreshwell.com/
I think you need to do a bit of research on what foods are high carb as it might help you make some better choices.

Incidentally have you had your prostate checked as that can cause having to get up in the night.

 

[Scotsguy1966]

As you are only prediabetic I assume you are not on any medication so are managing your condition by diet only. If this is the case you are having some pretty high carb foods, 2 bananas and 2 oranges would add up to quite a few carbs which added to pasta again high carb could explain your high levels.
Many who are Type 2 would avoid bananas and restrict their other fruit to just 1 or have berries which are lower carb.
There is lower carb pasta made from edamame beans or black beans but jars of sauces are often high carb so watch those. Have a look at this link for some good information and some menu ideas https://lowcarbfreshwell.com/
I think you need to do a bit of research on what foods are high carb as it might help you make some better choices.

Incidentally have you had your prostate checked as that can cause having to get up in the night.

Thanks for the reply . I am feeling frustrated about the mixed messages about what to eat and not eat . My nutritionist stated banana ms were fine ? What fruits would you recommend ? Yes maybe the pasta isn’t for me . I took a amytripiline tablet last night to help my sleep . Did bloods this morning . It was 6.4 ! I’m not on any meds for my PD as yet and trying to avoid it as much as possible . I’ve lost 10 kg since last august too

 

[snowball12]

Thanks for the reply . I am feeling frustrated about the mixed messages about what to eat and not eat . My nutritionist stated banana ms were fine ? What fruits would you recommend ? Yes maybe the pasta isn’t for me . I took a amytripiline tablet last night to help my sleep . Did bloods this morning . It was 6.4 ! I’m not on any meds for my PD as yet and trying to avoid it as much as possible . I’ve lost 10 kg since last august too

Bananas and pasta send my sugar high. I would test two hours after eating a banana and pasta. It's the only way to be certain. Everyone is different. I can tolerate oats but some people can't. Glad your results were good and weight loss is amazing.

 

[Scotsguy1966]

Bananas and pasta send my sugar high. I would test two hours after eating a banana and pasta. It's the only way to be certain. Everyone is different. I can tolerate oats but some people can't. Glad your results were good and weight loss is amazing.

Thank you

 

[Leadinglights]

Bananas and pasta send my sugar high. I would test two hours after eating a banana and pasta. It's the only way to be certain. Everyone is different. I can tolerate oats but some people can't. Glad your results were good and weight loss is amazing.

Thanks for the reply . I am feeling frustrated about the mixed messages about what to eat and not eat . My nutritionist stated banana ms were fine ? What fruits would you recommend ? Yes maybe the pasta isn’t for me . I took a amytripiline tablet last night to help my sleep . Did bloods this morning . It was 6.4 ! I’m not on any meds for my PD as yet and trying to avoid it as much as possible . I’ve lost 10 kg since last august too

As explained in the link I posted the standard NHS advice given out by many GP surgeries does some Type 2 patients no favours as it is too high carb for them to tolerate.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

I think it’s pre diabetes ? I was 48 a few months ago with the blood test , was placed on Statins too for high cholesterol .

Got results back last week and I’m at 44 now ! My cholesterol 3.3 . Been checking my blood g levels now and then . But not obsessively

. Today been all over the place . This morning before breakfast 8 am was 9 , two hours later after breakfast it was 9.7! At 5 pm it was 6 then two hours after dinner it was highest it’s been which was 11.5 .

At risk of diabetes (sometimes called prediabetes) is usually defined as an HbA1c between 42-47. With a reading or two above 48 usually being enough to confirm diabetes proper. Some GPs want a double check, others just call it on the first 48.

Great to hear you have a BG meter to help you with your trial and error. You are so right - people’s reactions to foods can be very different so ‘healthy diet’ on paper can need checking for you as an individual to see if your metabolism is happy with meals and snacks.

While there are obvious things like cakes, biscuits, sweets and sugary drinks that you will want to cut out straight away, you might be surprised how much *all* carbohydrate affects your BG levels, including rice, pasta, potatoes, bread, pastry, grains, cereals and many fruits (berries are often the easiest on the BG, and tropical fruits can give much bigger rises).

You don’t have to try to cut carbohydrates out completely (which would be almost impossible, and needlessly limiting). But getting the portion sizes right, and looking for the sources of carbs that your body absorbs more slowly can be really helpful. Eg some people are fine with porridge but struggle with seedy bread. For others it is exactly the opposite. While for others still both are tricky unless limited to smaller amounts with more lower carb ‘padding’.

Many folks use their BG meter checking immediately before and 2hrs after meals to see what the “meal rise” is at the 2hr mark. Aiming to keep the rise down to 2-3mmol/L, and ultimately to keep all numbers between 4-8.5mmol/L.

Good luck with your experiments!