Newly...about to start Remission program

[Martin.A]

Hi Martin, please see attached Photo of back of the tub….hope you can translate it. As I can’t understand from 2/3 teaspoons point of view?

My wife's pointed out that we have a can of Marvel Dried Skimmed Milk in our larder so I just had a look and there are instructions on the can that says 57g of milk powder per pint of water, a pint being 568 ml. Are there no similar instructions on your can,?

 

[CarolT]

If you’re a coffee drinker, then the chocolate, vanilla, chai, and caramel shakes are all really nice made up in the normal way with cold water and then warmed up in a microwave or pan and added to a spoonful of instant coffee or a shot of espresso. Very comforting, especially in the evening.
The milk allowance on the programme is normally enough for 2 cups a day of tea or coffee.

 

[rebrascora]

If @Martin.A 's directions are the same as yours then you are talking roughly a tenth of that powder would make a tenth of 568ml which is near enough 57mls, so 5g of powder (if you are putting that straight into tea or coffee is going to give you roughly the equivalent of 50mls skimmed milk, which I imagine will be not much more than one teaspoon of milk powder.... so not a lot!
Personally I would recommend you buy real milk, as milk powder is more highly processed. Having said that, your soups and shakes are also highly processed, so maybe it is not something to bother about at the moment.
I used to use Coffee Mate but since diagnosis, I do my best to avoid processed foods and when you read the ingredients labels on these things it is a bit mind boggling as to what is in them, so I decided to only buy real cream now.... of course that is no good for you on a very low calorie/Newcastle diet, but it suits me on a low carb diet.

 

[Maher2025]

All above information is very helpful. Thank you

 

[CarolT]

Morning Maher, I was wondering how you’re getting on with the TDR programme?

 

[Maher2025]

Morning Maher, I was wondering how you’re getting on with the TDR programme?

Hi Carol, unfortunately I had to delay my start date of the program due to family medical issue. So wouldn’t be be to commit 100% with that on mind.

I’m hoping once that’s sorted I can start.

 

[CarolT]

Oh, really sorry to hear that. Best wishes for a good outcome of the issues.

 

[pjgtech]

Hi, and am currently about 7 months into my NHS Pathway to Remission program (last 12 months).
I did the very low cal (800 cals per day) 12 week start (soups and shakes, although I just stuck to the shakes), then the food re-introduction phase and am now adjusting to a new way of life/eating.
I have lost 25kg in total, but 15kg from starting the programme, and 8" off my waist.
My BG levels are now normal and I have been able to stop taking T2 meds (Metformin).
As of my last two HbA1c blood tests I am now technically in remission.
Its not easy, especially the first 12 weeks, but it is totally worth it, for me it was life changing, so I would highly recommend it.
Cheers

 

[TrevorMorgan]

Hello all, I have recently been put on meds for Type 2. But GP have also referred me to Momenta Newcastle Remission program.

Which I have my 1st coach session in few days.

I can’t wait to get started on this program with hope of loosing up to 15% body weight and possibly going off the meds and putting diabetes into remission.

Any help during my course would be appreciated.

Well done Maher2025. You are lucky to get on a course as I was too old when I first contracted T2DM. I hope you can make the best of it. I have had to try to get to remission very much on my own: with the help of Professor Roy Taylors books "Reversing Type 2 diabetes" and "Life Without Diabetes", also the help of my wife and Diabetes UK. The Xpert -health diabetes handbook 15.1 is also excellent.

I put myself on a low carb diet which was simply rubbered stamped by the NHS dietician. When my Hba1c reached the target of 48 mmol I was told that all diabetic clinic help would stop and that I should refer to my GP. I have just achieved an Hab1c of 43 mmol and with the approval of my doctor I have stopped all medication. I do not take any medication for anything else. I am 74 years of age and weigh just over 61kg most of the time. Being the same weight now as I was when I was 20 has a lot to do with the regulation of my blood glucose, as does lots of exercise. Hopefully, I can maintain my "lower" BG level and achieve remission, I have 2 months more to go. Being off the medication helps me a lot with my life; no more injections or the side effects of metformin and sitagliptin. Good luck to you.

 

[beating_my_betes]

My HbA1c actually went up after 2 months eating a small meal and a Tesco shake - and I have had problems returning to my normal way of eating afterwards - plus I think my waist has expanded a little. Although the regime seems to follow the accepted protocols for weightloss, it seems that not everyone follows the script.
I had no trouble following the low calorie diet - once I reduced it down to some ridiculously low number, but possibly the easily accessible carbs in the shake caused spikes - as so n as I saw that my HbA1c was higher than expected I stopped using them and tried to go back to two 'normal' meals a day, but it seems really difficult to get back into the routine.

Isn't it 3-4 months to show change in hba1c? I would suspect that eating at such a starvation level forced your body into complete disarray, not least in terms of the effects of cortisol on your blood sugar.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

I put myself on a low carb diet which was simply rubbered stamped by the NHS dietician. When my Hba1c reached the target of 48 mmol I was told that all diabetic clinic help would stop and that I should refer to my GP. I have just achieved an Hab1c of 43 mmol and with the approval of my doctor I have stopped all medication.

Well done @TrevorMorgan - sounds like your approach has worked really well for you 🙂

 

[Drummer]

Isn't it 3-4 months to show change in hba1c? I would suspect that eating at such a starvation level forced your body into complete disarray, not least in terms of the effects of cortisol on your blood sugar.

Yes, HbA1c reflects the last 3 months or so, according to most sources. I had intended to continue the regime if my HbA1c test showed good results, but when it came back it showed an unexpected increase.
I have often been pushed to eat less and less by GPs - they seem unable to comprehend that there are people who do not lose weight easily, or to order, so I have been pressured to go on starvation diets many times since I left home.
The main problem I found was resuming what had been my successful way of eating after the two months. Only now, after some 6 months am I getting back to having a proper morning meal. I do feel better for it.

 

[beating_my_betes]

Yes, HbA1c reflects the last 3 months or so, according to most sources. I had intended to continue the regime if my HbA1c test showed good results, but when it came back it showed an unexpected increase.

But this is my point: I don't think your results would be unexpected on such a starvation regime. And without knowing the previous(to starting) month's number, it makes it even more difficult to point the blame at simple carbs as you are.
I'm guessing you were perhaps circling around 500kcals, per-day, and still intermittent fasting? If your sugars were high enough for long enough following such a regime, this woud seem highly unlike as a a response to what you had eaten, rather than what you hadn't.

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