Newcastle diet and T2

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Hi I’m new to the forum and on week 7 of the Newcastle diet. It’s going ok but the weight loss isn’t as high each week as I’d hoped. After one month I’d only lost 1/2 stone. I’ve now gone back to the gym too and have two of my three milkshakes on either side of a workout, hoping that will help my readings (tests due in March). I’m ok with eating veg and often make soups or just steam the veg and am using tea and coffee to keep me going with the odd handful of nuts (I know they’re not part of the diet but I do flag).
I’d like advice on what ‘diet plan’ I should move to in March? I’ve read about low carb, low GI, Keto, LCHF and would like to buy a recipe book to allow me to control the carb/fat/protein/sugar and caps per meal. I’m cooking for a non T2 too. Any advice is much appreciated as the endocrinologist I see won’t offer me nutrition/long term diet advice.
 
To be honest, that depends on your results.
I had good success, and went for a healthy Mediterranean diet.
Still seeing BG readings in the normal range.
 
travellor said:
To be honest, that depends on your results.
I had good success, and went for a healthy Mediterranean diet.
Still seeing BG readings in the normal range.
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My readings are still around 7.4 and are supposed to be around 5 in the morning. I thought the Mediterranean diet was the one to go for too, but my readings are high on the shakes, so I’m worried.
 
As controlling type two diabetes seems to be all about the carbohydrates eaten the simplest - and to me the most obvious way to eat for the foreseeable future is low carb foods, adjusting the amount so what you see on your meter is in the normal range two hours after eating.
That usually means that there is no need to micromanage diet, as long as your weight is stable or drifting downwards, as desired, so it is not taking up time.
 
Drummer said:
As controlling type two diabetes seems to be all about the carbohydrates eaten the simplest - and to me the most obvious way to eat for the foreseeable future is low carb foods, adjusting the amount so what you see on your meter is in the normal range two hours after eating.
That usually means that there is no need to micromanage diet, as long as your weight is stable or drifting downwards, as desired, so it is not taking up time.
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That's the difference between low carb and the Newcastle diet.
As you say, if you only want to control diabetes, and eat only low carb in the future, that's one option.

I preferred to reverse diabetes, and go back to an entirely normal diet, and have a future were I don't need to adjust anything, as I'm no longer diabetic.
And yes, I agree, I did need to put in a lot of effort, and I also agree, it did take time and effort to really push for the weight loss, so again, I can see it's not for all.

But the op clearly wants to reverse diabetes as well, so having done it, I'm here to help others reverse it where I can, and get onto a life without worrying about meter readings.
 
Tia_C said:
Hi I’m new to the forum and on week 7 of the Newcastle diet. It’s going ok but the weight loss isn’t as high each week as I’d hoped. After one month I’d only lost 1/2 stone. I’ve now gone back to the gym too and have two of my three milkshakes on either side of a workout, hoping that will help my readings (tests due in March). I’m ok with eating veg and often make soups or just steam the veg and am using tea and coffee to keep me going with the odd handful of nuts (I know they’re not part of the diet but I do flag).
I’d like advice on what ‘diet plan’ I should move to in March? I’ve read about low carb, low GI, Keto, LCHF and would like to buy a recipe book to allow me to control the carb/fat/protein/sugar and caps per meal. I’m cooking for a non T2 too. Any advice is much appreciated as the endocrinologist I see won’t offer me nutrition/long term diet advice.
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Well done & welcome Tia C 😎. If I was T2 I would give it right go 😉
 
I am not really convinced that a 'normal' diet, with 'balanced' amounts of carbs fats and proteins should ever be the goal for someone who is metabolically susceptible to problems with glucose.
My readings for blood glucose and Hba1c are at the top end of normal, I have lost weight and regained a waist - but eating a few extra carbs results in measurable weight gain within hours, which takes days to get rid of. It indicates that my insulin resistance is much less, that my metabolism has changed - but storing carbs as fat with the added water that goes with it, is not want I want to do.
 
Tia_C what shakes do you have on the Newcastle diet? I must google...

travellor what op?
 
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Tia_C what shakes do you have on the Newcastle diet? I must google...

travellor what op?
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think op meant original poster (not operation!)
 
Drummer said:
As controlling type two diabetes seems to be all about the carbohydrates eaten the simplest - and to me the most obvious way to eat for the foreseeable future is low carb foods, adjusting the amount so what you see on your meter is in the normal range two hours after eating.
That usually means that there is no need to micromanage diet, as long as your weight is stable or drifting downwards, as desired, so it is not taking up time.
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Keep carbs down on your diet 🙂
 
On the NHS Desmond course I didn't think, juices or shakes were recommended as they spike the blood glucose quite quickly, we were advised to eat the whole fruit instead but even some of those not all in one go.
 
The shakes recommended for the Newcastle diet are specific brands.
 
Drummer said:
The shakes recommended for the Newcastle diet are specific brands.
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Any processed / liquid form of food (including diet replacement drinks and home processed smoothies with fruit and veg) was not recommended on the NHS Desmond course for reasons mentioned previously.
 
A positive step to take "Newcastle Diet" Good luck if you are trying 😎
 
Jodee said:
Any processed / liquid form of food (including diet replacement drinks and home processed smoothies with fruit and veg) was not recommended on the NHS Desmond course for reasons mentioned previously.
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But this is the Newcastle diet - Desmond is the NHS course.
 
Drummer said:
But this is the Newcastle diet - Desmond is the NHS course.
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Quite - the Desmond is the NHS course for Type II diabetes, inclusive of dietary recommendations. I guess its whatever helps keep the blood glucose at a healthy level 🙂 Perhaps the Desmond course will one day recommend something entirely different 😉
 
Good Luck to any one who finds the Newcastle diet works well for them. Tia_C I used to find myself flagging when pushing too hard at the gym also, even with good food meal an hour before. Never could tell if it was the blood sugars out of balance or to do with gas exchange in the lungs.
 
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