flannelfeet
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Newly diagnosed diabetes and fatty liver
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Hi @flannelfeet and welcome to the forum.
Two suggestions for you to consider:
1. If you think that calorie controlled diets keep weight off long term and like the idea - go for it. Type 2 diabetics who lose and maintain over 15% of body weight usually go into remission.
2. If you think crash diets mostly cause a rebound in weight - try a Low carbohydrate 'way of eating'. No calorie counting, no hunger, cut the carbs and replace them with Protein and adding some traditional fat back into meals. Proven to work in around 50% of those who tried it at Dr David Unwin's GP Surgery in Southport. Fixed both NAFLD and T2 Diabetes - no medicines required. Oh and it worked for me just from reading about it in the other (red) UK Diabetes forum.
Two suggestions for you to consider:
1. If you think that calorie controlled diets keep weight off long term and like the idea - go for it. Type 2 diabetics who lose and maintain over 15% of body weight usually go into remission.
2. If you think crash diets mostly cause a rebound in weight - try a Low carbohydrate 'way of eating'. No calorie counting, no hunger, cut the carbs and replace them with Protein and adding some traditional fat back into meals. Proven to work in around 50% of those who tried it at Dr David Unwin's GP Surgery in Southport. Fixed both NAFLD and T2 Diabetes - no medicines required. Oh and it worked for me just from reading about it in the other (red) UK Diabetes forum.
flannelfeet
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Hi
Thanks for the reply unfortunately I am in a unique situation having only 120cm of bowel and on anti coagulants, my diet is very high carb based as I have to avoid high fibre, and dark green veg. I received both diagnoses on the phone from my GP and feel i’m drowning
Thanks for the reply unfortunately I am in a unique situation having only 120cm of bowel and on anti coagulants, my diet is very high carb based as I have to avoid high fibre, and dark green veg. I received both diagnoses on the phone from my GP and feel i’m drowning
Low Carb doesn't mean high fibre. It means avoiding sugars (most fruits except berries) grains, potatoes and other sugary or starchy foods. In fact many people with a Low Carb way of eating eat hardly any fibre at all (for example those on a carnivorous diet).
Eggs, cheese and dairy contain absolutely zero fibre. There is no dietary fibre in meat or fish either. Pumpkin sunflower and flax seeds (linseed) are lowish in fibre compared with other seeds and nuts.
Although I still have my colon, I have MYH associated Polyposis so I know lots of people with no bowel at all (including my brother). There is nothing at all to stop them having a Low Carb way of eating, in fact we humans have the high stomach acid, longer small intestine and shorter large intestine typical of carnivorous animals such as dogs and cats.
Eggs, cheese and dairy contain absolutely zero fibre. There is no dietary fibre in meat or fish either. Pumpkin sunflower and flax seeds (linseed) are lowish in fibre compared with other seeds and nuts.
Although I still have my colon, I have MYH associated Polyposis so I know lots of people with no bowel at all (including my brother). There is nothing at all to stop them having a Low Carb way of eating, in fact we humans have the high stomach acid, longer small intestine and shorter large intestine typical of carnivorous animals such as dogs and cats.
flannelfeet
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Thanks for the info, I am hoping to see the gastro team and dietician.
In order to come up with an earring plan.
I have not been able to eat salads veg fruit nuts and pulses or fibre and dark green in particular since the vowel resection, I have no idea as to what I can replace the carbs with or what I can eat to improve the fatty liver disease my current diet conflicts with all that I have read to date with diabetes and fatty liver. Having been given both diagnoses over the phone in a two minute consultation has left me feeling completely abandoned by my surgery.
In order to come up with an earring plan.
I have not been able to eat salads veg fruit nuts and pulses or fibre and dark green in particular since the vowel resection, I have no idea as to what I can replace the carbs with or what I can eat to improve the fatty liver disease my current diet conflicts with all that I have read to date with diabetes and fatty liver. Having been given both diagnoses over the phone in a two minute consultation has left me feeling completely abandoned by my surgery.
It is normal for GP Surgeries in the UK to 'abandon' Type 2 Diabetics, since the NHS advised diet makes the diabetes worse. So most GPs think that that T2D is progressive and irreversible. They don't bother to try anything other than increasing medication and vague (usually bad) dietary advice. Sometimes they claim that we are all apathetic and would rather risk blindness and amputations than use a Blood Glucose meter to test our personal reaction to the carbohydrates in our food and make the necessary adjustments.
Either Low Carb or a crash diet will fix fatty liver.
Carbohydrates drive up Blood Sugar, so your current high carb diet is the worst thing for your diabetes.
Through studying the records of his patients at his Southport GP practice, Dr David Unwin has show that a Low Carb way of eating (no calorie restriction) which substitutes more protein and more Fat in place of the calories lost by cutting carbs, has the following benefits:
1. Reverses T2D
2. Reverses Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease.
3. Helps with BG control in those with T1D
4. reduced water retention.
5. Reduces elevated Blood Pressure.
6. Improves kidney function.
Either Low Carb or a crash diet will fix fatty liver.
Carbohydrates drive up Blood Sugar, so your current high carb diet is the worst thing for your diabetes.
Through studying the records of his patients at his Southport GP practice, Dr David Unwin has show that a Low Carb way of eating (no calorie restriction) which substitutes more protein and more Fat in place of the calories lost by cutting carbs, has the following benefits:
1. Reverses T2D
2. Reverses Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease.
3. Helps with BG control in those with T1D
4. reduced water retention.
5. Reduces elevated Blood Pressure.
6. Improves kidney function.
Drummer
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If you have the upper part of your digestive tract, then protein and fat should be OK as they are digested in the acid environment of the stomach, and in the gut just below it, so if you can eat meat, fish, eggs, cheese and other dairy then it should nourish you - look up the info on the forum for carnivore diets for ideas.
You might, perhaps, be able to cope with soups if blended to death with some high powered device.
When diagnosed my middle was rock hard, my waist was huge and I could not bend down to reach lower shelves without my ribs being pushed out. Now I can wipe out the very bottom of the fridge. My waist is so much smaller since eating low carb, and the 'bay window' has flattened out considerably - I suspect my liver is rather smaller and a lot softer than at diagnosis.
flannelfeet
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Yes my upper digestive tract is fine thank goodness. I had no symptoms of either diabetes or fatty liver. At 5 ft my weight at 64kg and stable since diagnosis it has dropped to 58.5kg Other than a referral to a diabetic clinic,retinal screening and prescribed metformin I feel I have been left hanging. No suggestion of testing my own blood sugar. Thankfully I am a gastro outpatient at ST Marks in harrow and I intend to request an appointment for their advice and a review
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