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[Heath o]

Hi I am heath new to the group and have had type 2 for about 4/5 years

 

[Ralph-YK]

Welcome Heath from a fellow T2, who's 3 years in.

 

[Heath o]

Hi Ralph I'm on 1000 mg metformin and 25 ml anogliptol but sugars still to high

 

[Mark Parrott]

Hi Heath & welcome to the forum.🙂 Please tell us more about yourself & particularly your diet. Most on here (particularly the Type 2's) follow a low carb diet. All carbs raise our blood sugars, not just sweet things. So things like bread, rice, pasta & potatoes should be cut down.

 

[Heath o]

Hi mark I'm 49 had blood test done 4 weeks ago my sugars was 10.5 since then I have been watching what I eat and have gone down from 15.5 to 14.10 stone but my sugars have gone up to 13.5 and 11.5 when fasting my diet isn't to bad I have replaced sugar with sweetness and a typical day would be 2 toast(seeded brown bread) sandwich for dinner and fish and boiled potatoes for tea and snacks is 2 pieces of fruit before I started watching my weight I drink 30 cups of coffee per day had 2 sugars in each and eating loads of sweets chocolate biscuits etc I also have high blood pressure high cholesterol but have now cut down on butter quite a lot so cholesterol should of gone down

 

[Ralph-YK]

had blood test done 4 weeks ago my sugars was 10.5

Was that a HbA1c test (blood taken from the arm and taken away), or finger prick test (drop of blood on a test strip in a machine there and then).
HbA1c is an average over about 10-12 weeks.

my sugars have gone up to 13.5 and 11.5 when fasting

I take it you're self testing. 🙂
Have you kept a food diary along with a record of your BG?

 

[Mark Parrott]

OK. You may find that even seeded brown bread is very high in carbs, though it does have more fibre than white bread, it can still send your BG sky high. I have Burgen Soya & Linseed which has a much lower impact on BG. What fruit do you have? Most fruit is full of sugar & although we are told it's natural sugar, our bodies don't really care & it will affect your BG. Berries are best & avoid tropical fruits. You may be lucky to get away with an apple or a small banana if it's not too ripe. Cutting back on butter will unlikely made any difference with cholesterol. Our bodies produce their own cholesterol from the liver, what we eat has very little effect. Also you need to find out what your breakdown is (LDL/HDL/Trigs). The total number means nothing. My total cholesterol is high, but my breakdown is good. This was made possible by lowering carbs and increasing fat intake, so yes, I eat butter, cheese & cream & improved my cholesterol & lost 4 stone in weight. It's hard to get your head around it as we have been told the wrong information for 40 years but things are slowly changing.🙂

 

[Jeandp]

Excellent advice from @Mark Parrott . I second that.

 

[Heath o]

the Hba1c was 10.5 which was taken from leg as they can't find vein anywhere else apart from groin the higher ones where taken from finger prices and have just but a book to write everything down in I,e reading food diary suitable foods etc

 

[Heath o]

Cant remember what last cholesterol test was but the one before was 12.5

 

[Drummer]

Hello Heath.
Unfortunately a lot of the so called healthy options are just not going to help control blood glucose - I put a limit of 10 percent carbohydrate on just about all foods, with just a couple a bit higher, which I eat very occasionally in small amounts.
It really worked for me, with lower BG almost instantly and non diabetic Hba1c.
It means no grains, no potatoes or starchy veges, only the lowest sugar berries, but it did the job.

 

[Heath o]

Hi drummer didn't realise so many options out there in the past I always joked about it saying I was working my way up to type 1 and always ate loads of sweets and chocolate thinking it would be OK because had tablets to counter act it but now it's a reality I have already changed my life style but it needs a few tweaks

 

[Drummer]

It seems as though no one ever explained about diabetes to you.
You can hardly be blamed for problems caused because of poor information at diagnosis.
With any luck though you can get better results quite soon, it was very fast for me. I saw non diabetic numbers after 80 days.

 

[Heath o]

What is a morris side drummer and I might give the Atkinson diet ago you have got good results there

 

[Matt Cycle]

Hi drummer didn't realise so many options out there in the past I always joked about it saying I was working my way up to type 1 and always ate loads of sweets and chocolate thinking it would be OK because had tablets to counter act it but now it's a reality I have already changed my life style but it needs a few tweaks

Hi Heath and welcome to the forum. I thought I drank a lot of coffee but 30 cups! 😱 You wouldn't work your way up to Type 1 as T1 and T2 are completely separate conditions. Type 1 is an autoimmune condition where the beta cells in the pancreas are destroyed. If you are T2 and have to use insulin you would simply be a Type 2 on insulin.

 

[Drummer]

What is a morris side drummer and I might give the Atkinson diet ago you have got good results there

Morris dancing - maybe look up Anonymous morris on you tube and you'll see some of my lot - but there's a lot of it about.

 

[Vince_UK]

I totally support and second @Mark Parrott 's advice. It worked for me 🙂

 

[Heath o]

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Hi Heath and welcome to the forum. I thought I drank a lot of coffee but 30 cups! 😱 You wouldn't work your way up to Type 1 as T1 and T2 are completely separate conditions. Type 1 is an autoimmune condition where the beta cells in the pancreas are destroyed. If you are T2 and have to use insulin you would simply be a Type 2 on insulin.

That's good then doctor said if it goes any higher would have to go on insulin so I presumed that would be type 1
QUOTE="Matt Cycle, post: 805943, member: 14119"]Hi Heath and welcome to the forum. I thought I drank a lot of coffee but 30 cups! 😱 You wouldn't work your way up to Type 1 as T1 and T2 are completely separate conditions. Type 1 is an autoimmune condition where the beta cells in the pancreas are destroyed. If you are T2 and have to use insulin you would simply be a Type 2 on insulin.[/QUOTE]

 

[Heath o]

OK. You may find that even seeded brown bread is very high in carbs, though it does have more fibre than white bread, it can still send your BG sky high. I have Burgen Soya & Linseed which has a much lower impact on BG. What fruit do you have? Most fruit is full of sugar & although we are told it's natural sugar, our bodies don't really care & it will affect your BG. Berries are best & avoid tropical fruits. You may be lucky to get away with an apple or a small banana if it's not too ripe. Cutting back on butter will unlikely made any difference with cholesterol. Our bodies produce their own cholesterol from the liver, what we eat has very little effect. Also you need to find out what your breakdown is (LDL/HDL/Trigs). The total number means nothing. My total cholesterol is high, but my breakdown is good. This was made possible by lowering carbs and increasing fat intake, so yes, I eat butter, cheese & cream & improved my cholesterol & lost 4 stone in weight. It's hard to get your head around it as we have been told the wrong information for 40 years but things are slowly changing.🙂

Hi mark that is very good advice thank-you was reading up on low carbon diets yesterday and realised was already half way there I eat a lot of Fish and meat cheese some bac

OK. You may find that even seeded brown bread is very high in carbs, though it does have more fibre than white bread, it can still send your BG sky high. I have Burgen Soya & Linseed which has a much lower impact on BG. What fruit do you have? Most fruit is full of sugar & although we are told it's natural sugar, our bodies don't really care & it will affect your BG. Berries are best & avoid tropical fruits. You may be lucky to get away with an apple or a small banana if it's not too ripe. Cutting back on butter will unlikely made any difference with cholesterol. Our bodies produce their own cholesterol from the liver, what we eat has very little effect. Also you need to find out what your breakdown is (LDL/HDL/Trigs). The total number means nothing. My total cholesterol is high, but my breakdown is good. This was made possible by lowering carbs and increasing fat intake, so yes, I eat butter, cheese & cream & improved my cholesterol & lost 4 stone in weight. It's hard to get your head around it as we have been told the wrong information for 40 years but things are slowly changing.🙂

Thank-you for the really good advice mark was reading on low carb diets yesterday and realised was half way there eat fish on a daily basis almost cheese and meat and bacon sometimes so I do think that the way to go for me I eat tangerine and banana on daily basis and never knew that about cholesterol you have been a big help mark

 

[Drummer]

If you pick out the things which are low carb - meat fish shellfish eggs cheese, and keep those on the list, then select things like the banana to remove - being high carb - along with bread, rice pasta potatoes porridge etc you can thin add in the low carb veges, salad stuff and lowest carb fruits to make up the difference. You can have cream with your coffee and berries - it really is not a bad diet at all and normally a type two, with luck, can drop their blood glucose right down, and I found that after a few weeks of it leaping around like crazy my BG stabilized and then went down - presumably my metabolism has recovered a bit.
Now I am over a year from diagnosis I could eat more carbs - but they really are the most boring bits of the so called healthy diet and I would not want to go back to eating them. Perhaps when I am a bit further on, and have lost more weight, I might bake some bread if I can find some nutritious ingredients, but white flour is not going to be looming large.