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Hi I first joined two years ago when I had prediabetes - why oh why did I not do something then..I buried my head in the sand. I have a finger prick test and I am 7.5 on waking, sometimes more. My GP has sent my annual blood test form and I know I need to go and have my official test. My diet is awful coca cola, crisps and chocolate. I am tired and thirsty all the time with blurred vision. At times I have tried slimming world but couldn't keep to it. A few days a ago I read David Cavin's book and it all makes more sense! Carbs just make me more hungry! I am feeling overwhelemed thinking how can I change my diet from one such extreme to another. However I also have hope. I am tired of looking pregnant and low - because yet again I have eaten all the choc and pizza. I am thin all over really - apart from my stomach. Thanks for listening
 
May I recommend changing over from a high-carb to a low-carb (quasi-keto)(as in, all-keto is very tough and may not be achievable by anyone except the formidably dedicated and self-controlled!), but to do so in the following way (I am pre-D at the moment, and trying to stay that way, as in, not tip over into T2 and even, who knows, reverse out of pre-D completly??)

Giving up carbs is hard, we all know that, and as you say, carbs themselves fuel the pernicious 'hunger/full/hunger/full' cycle we get trapped in.

But, as we also know, going (more) keto breaks that cycle - most folk here who report on going (more) keto say their hunger pangs diminish, and the feeling of generally feeling 'OK-full' (as oposed to 'bloated full'!), sated, perhaps, rather than bloated?

However, it can be hard to go cold turkey on carbs (or even cool turkey!), so why not try and go keto 'as well'??? The idea is that you don't cut down on your carbs initially, you just add a lot more protein and veg fibre (I'm going to say if you are overweight now, then don't eat any more fat than you already do)(when you are off carbs, or into much lower carbs, then you can allow more fat anyway along with the protein and veg fibre)

So the idea is - keep on with carbs (starch and sugar), but eat more protein and fibre as well. The latter will fill you up in a 'healthy' way (sated not bloated), and you should find (I hope!) that your craving for your current too-high level of carb should start to diminish. You just won't feel as deprived as you do now when you've used up the latest round of carb intake.


That's one way to shift into lower-carb/more keto.

Another way is to target one source of carb and cut it out. The obvious one for you would be the cola - there is NOTHING we consume that is MORE POINTLESS than cola. It is the world's most USELESS 'foodstuff' and should be banned by law. It's just utter rubbish - all those fizzy junk drinks are rubbish.

It isn't easy shifting from bad eating to good eating, but for many the route that works best is the gradual one.

It's hard to believe that protein and fibre can stop you feeling hungry, ie, that if you don't eat starch you won't feel hungry. How can a meal fill you up if there is no starch???!!!! But give it a go - have a meal which is protein and fibre and see how you feel after half an hour.

Finally, see if you can start to view your carb allowance as your 'treat' not your 'food'. For me, my 'food' (nourishment) is protein and fibre - that's what fills me up and fuels me. Then my carb allowance is my 'treat' - either in the form of fruit (when I'm being 'good'!) or 'pudding' of some sort (when I'm lapsing!). I don't eat carbs for fuel, but for fun.

All the best - the good thing is you are recognising you have to 'do something' and you are preparing to do it.

'De-addicting' from carbs isn't easy, but it can be done. Good luck!
 
About the 7.5 on waking BG level. Don't forget the Dawn Phenomenon, where our bodies release glucose into our bloodstream to prep our bodies for getting up and going.

You can see if you have DP if you take your BG just before bed, and then if the waking BG is higher, then you've released glucose from your liver etc, because there's no other source for it (unless you've ha a middle of the night snack of course!!!!)
 
DP is natural, part of the circadian rhythm, and the fact BG is > 7 on waking means you can't handle the natural rise that happens in the early hours of the morning and > 7 is more an indication of diabetes rather than pre-diabetes. A proper hba1c test should give you a definitive answer.

In non-diabetics the rise (Which isn't that large) is cleared by a small rise in insulin levels.
 
Callista and Harbottle thanks so much for taking the time to reply. All of this information is really helpful. Much appreciated.
 
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I'd be concerned about the blurred vision. This happened to me in the months before diagnosis and I dismissed it as my eyesight just changing (I wear glasses). I cut the refined carbs and it improved in a week or so.
 
Before I was diagnosed I was a complete carb monster. No sooner had I finished my breakfast bagel or bacon sarnie I was thinking about my lunchtime baguette or chippy dinner, and then looking forward to my tea with loads of potatoes or rice. I snacked on crisps like they were going out of fashion. On the plus side, when I cut them out it only took a couple of weeks for the cravings to go away. So there is hope....the best thing you can do is take it one day at a time and try hard not to beat yourself up when you fall off the wagon. Because we all do from time to time. Very best of luck x
 
The symptoms you describe are indicative of high blood glucose and those foods you are having certainly won't be helping so important to look to making some changes as soon as possible. Reducing your carbs gradually over a few weeks is kinder on your eyes and nerves. Keeping a food diary of everything you eat and drink is a good plan as it will help you see where you can make some savings. Swapping to Diet drinks is an obvious one.
This link may help you see that you can still have filling tasty meals on a low carb regime. https://lowcarbfreshwell.co.uk/
Whatever way you choose has to be enjoyable otherwise it will not be sustainable, it had to become a new way of eating not A DIET.
 
Hi AppleADay2010, welcome to the forum.

I always say that slow and steady wins the race. If you've been eating this way for a while then it may be tricky to change everything and may result in a yoyo situation.

I'd keep a diary of what you eat in a week and look for easy wins. Have a look at where you can up the protein and fibre to keep you fuller. Can you swap the Pepsi with sparling water and lemon for at least one meal? Are there any substitutes you can make such as a main meal over veg instead of rice?

As your blood sugar levels balance out you should see and improvement in your sight if that's the issue so it's worth taking some action as soon as you can.
 
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