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Got to take issues with that @ianf0ster ...... it's such a gross oversimplification. I'm all for looking for parallels as a means to help understanding but that is going too far even for me!
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Got to take issues with that @ianf0ster ...... it's such a gross oversimplification. I'm all for looking for parallels as a means to help understanding but that is going too far even for me!
It is a simplification but it's still true - carbs are what farmers do use to fatten livestock. Carbs are also what what many wild animals load up on to gain enough fat in order to survive the winter. But modern western humans with our supermarkets are constantly eating as if in anticipation of winter famine.
Please note that I personally eat as many carbs as my BG meter tells me that I can - because I like to eat them!
But to eat more carbs than my body can cope with doesn't make sense - but people still do just that.
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Drummer
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My father's mother's family were farmers - moved south after they were cleared off their farm in the far north - my grandma knew how to fatten poultry and pigs from being a girl - it is with carbohydrate. The geese we used to keep in the yard were huge, globular and always hungry. The ones which provided the eggs were allowed into the orchard and spent all day eating bugs they were much thinner and very placid.
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Which ones were tastiest?
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Drummer
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That I would not know - the fat ones would be there one day and gone the next - and the thin ones were far too precious to eat.
This is a really interesting thread.... as a newbie myself there was a lot of useful information in here and I'm impressed by the results some of you have made just by changing your diet.
@Nielh123 like you I was prediabetic for years but never given any specific advice apart from try to reduce the amount of sugar in my diet. I could cry now!! If I had more information re carbs I'm sure I could have avoided my type 2 diagnosis.
Still, plenty of inspiration on this forum to read up, get to grips with managing it myself and hopefully have a healthy future.
@Nielh123 like you I was prediabetic for years but never given any specific advice apart from try to reduce the amount of sugar in my diet. I could cry now!! If I had more information re carbs I'm sure I could have avoided my type 2 diagnosis.
Still, plenty of inspiration on this forum to read up, get to grips with managing it myself and hopefully have a healthy future.
Nielh123
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@Sandy4 just being admitted with suspected ketoacidosis and suspected covid. I'm buggered, and very confused. Ketoacidosis is apparently from releasing ketones which I thought was the desired result of a keto diet. Now its apparently a life threatening condition. It all beats me - and probably will beat me.
@Nielh123 I think the fact that we're both reading this at 5.50am says it all, lol.
I'm sorry, as a newbie myself I can't comment on the ketoacidosis as I've never come across the term. Another one for me to look up. However, I hope your suspected covid is just suspected.... that's the last thing you need now!
I'm sorry, as a newbie myself I can't comment on the ketoacidosis as I've never come across the term. Another one for me to look up. However, I hope your suspected covid is just suspected.... that's the last thing you need now!
Nielh123
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Ketoacidosis is where the blood turns acidic due lack of insulin causing a combination of very high Glucose and very high Ketones . Type 1 diabetics sometimes get this if they don't manage their diabetes very well.
Almost all Type 2 diabetics produce large amounts of insulin but it doesn't have enough of an effect due to insulin resistance. There are many Type 1 diabetics eating Low Carb or Keto and it doesn't cause them to get ketoacidosis so long as they still take their basal dose of insulin.
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As long as they aren’t on one of the 'gliflozins' of which Jardiance is one, see here.
Drummer
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There can be problems if the ketosis, a benign condition from breaking down fats for energy, is confused with DKA, diabetic ketoacidosis.
There was one poor woman who was constantly being sent to hospital by ambulance whenever she went to her GP surgery - the nurses had never heard of ketosis, and despite none of the other symptoms of DKA being there, they sent her to A & E. She got very fed up.
Hopefully the ketones are from ketosis, and it gets sorted out - and that the covid soon subsides.
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Carbs are certainly key. Unfortunately the well known 'slimming group' encourage over eating, especially carbs. My diabetes nurse told me to stay clear. Good luck with your bloods.
Just read through the full thread.
Could you be type 1?
Hope you're doing ok. Please update when you can.
Nielh123
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Thanks. Not sure if you saw the new thread I started updating this one. I'm OK now albeit living in the loo lol.
I don't recall being specifically told which type but as I was monitored as prediabetic for a couple of years before slipping into the diabetic zone I assume it's Type 2 (I think you're born with Type 1?). And insulin has not been suggested for me which I think it always is for Type 1. Odd thing is though, one of the docs did say my ketoacidosis symptoms were much more typical of Type 1 or at least an insulin dependent type 2. Trust me to be unusual🙂
Glad you're out of the danger zone and hope you're feeling better soon, you will soon adjust to your meds.
I asked about type 1 because of your ketones, have you been doing the keto plan?
It's just at my diagnosis my nurse used a urine sample looking for ketones to diagnose T1 or T2, it's not a definitive test, but if ketones aren't present they pressume T2.
They're produced when you have no insulin and T2's make it, they just can't use it.
It sounds like you've been let down at your GP's. I am lucky to have a great diabetes nurse who has really helped me to improve my health. Some of them are terrible.
My friend who is recently diagnosed was told by his nurse to continue eating as much mcdonalds as he wants. Because the fries aren't made from real potatoes. I found this advice quite alarming. His BG's have been as high as 14 this week. I've told him not to listen to this mad nurse and find another surgery.
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People can be diagnosed as Type 1 at any age. As you age it becomes less common but it's still possible. (In children it tends to be rather sudden and so hard to miss (it all happened for me over a couple of weeks), and in adults it can present differently.)
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