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Charliewatch

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The voodoo word "alcohol" whats the general consensus of beer or lager l thought lager had more suger in it than say real ale any views or advice and what do members eat before they go out to socialise.
 
The voodoo word "alcohol" whats the general consensus of beer or lager l thought lager had more suger in it than say real ale any views or advice and what do members eat before they go out to socialise.

Hi CW it's all about moderation , I'm sure some members still drink whatever they want or before diagnosis but they know there limits, usually when I'm out its diet coke all the way but sometimes I dabble in the odd lager shandy with no real effects on my levels... I forget do you test your BS with a meter?
 
I find real ales to be the most carby/problematic - I need to dose more insulin for them than anything else I drink (I choose not to have sweet/dessert wines or alcopops). Lager/cider need less insulin for me.

On MDI I never injected for beers and accepted the high BGs that came with drinking, but since starting on a pump I have successfully used small doses.

As to the (very genuine) BG reducing capacity for alcohol - as with many things Your Diabetes May Vary. You need to observe what happens and when to make the right choices. With ale/lager/cider I would expect an initial steep rise in BG, followed by a small reduction many hours later if I had had enough. I seem to get less BG drop than many, and it only happens much much later. I don't see much if any noticeable reduction for a pint or two.

Red wine and spirits/diet mixers do not give me a BG rise. But I do need to watch BG lowering possibilities overnight if I've had quite a bit
 
I find that dry wine makes me low, and if I overindulge on the stuff I get hypo symptoms along with a monster hangover. I don't bother with booze these days.

As for what to eat before going out, I have a low-carb snack like my crustless quiche (see the food/carbs section for a recipe), or some ham or roast chicken.
 
l do not test my sugar with a meter,l asked the question at a diabetic education course and l was told that if the diabetes specialists think l need one they will give me one but they don't think l need one, they are quite cheap so l have thought about getting one but l don't know what l am looking at.
 
Hi Charliewatch, I started testing a few days ago after reading these forums. I got a SD Codefree meter & strips from Amazon, after asking advice here. It's easy once you've got the hang of it, and I've found it very interesting to see how my levels are affected by different things.

I would ignore what the experts tell you and get yourself a meter 🙂 . Unfortunately you'll probably have to buy one but they're not that expensive - my meter plus strips cost ?20.31 from Amazon, and pots of new strips are about ?6.99 for 50.

Good luck!
 
Back on my hobby horse again. You really should seriously consider getting a meter, no matter what the medics say.

Testing is an extremely useful tool for any diabetic, especially those just starting out. By testing before and after meals, you learn how certain foods affect your blood sugars. You learn what food to avoid, what you can have from time to time and what you can eat any time. Without that information you are working in the dark which is no way to properly manage a condition that you will have for the rest of your life. Sadly, the professionals are often more than a little short-sighted on this and often out of date in their advice as well. It's up to us to take control for ourselves, that we we stand the best chance of living a healthy life and avoiding all those nasty complications.

As PM says, the SD Codefree is a cheap, easy to use blood glucose meter and the strips for it are about the cheapest going, which is often a serious consideration when you're having to pay for them yourself. You can get it from Amazon.

Please, if you can, do get yourself a meter and test, test, test.

A few basics: In the early stages, it's sensible to test on waking, before each meal then, 1, 2, and/or 3 hours afterwards*. And then once, more before bed. Keep a record of what the results was and what you ate. You can also test before and after exercise.

* Your blood sugars will almost always rise after a meal, but the speed and degree of the rise will vary depending on what you ate. If you eat a very carby meal your BS will probably rise very quickly and most likely get very high. A meal with a lot of fat may slow that rise so that you don't hit the peak till much later. And, a low carb/GI meal should mean your numbers don't go up nearly as much. The only way to know for sure is to test.

OK, I'm off the hobby horse again now... Till next time. 😱
 
Is there any problems pricking all your finger tips continually with the numerous testing each day.
 
Alternate between fingers, and location of stabs. If fingers get too tired, you can use earlobes. Parents can use children's toes - I don't know if adults can, the skin might be a bit thick.
 
Is there any problems pricking all your finger tips continually with the numerous testing each day.

It's best to avoid using your index fingers and your thumbs to prevent them from becoming sore and/or losing their sensitivity. For the other fingers, use each side of the pad and alternate to give each site time to recover. Pricking in the middle of the pad of your fingertip will hurt more as there are more receptors there that give you your fine detail of touch, so sides only! 🙂
 
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