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Newbie and scared

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WendyGallaghee

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Hi everyone, on April 12th this year I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I took the news well, started exercise and diet (low carb and sugar, cutting out sweets etc) but it's hit me today just how serious this could be. I'm not on Metaformim, i have an appointment in July to see if my blood sugar has gone down through my lifestyle change.
Today, I've been upset. I feel so alone, I don't know anyone who has this in my friends and family. They all do try to help and tell me what to eat but what works for them won't work for me. High carbs etc. I don't know who to turn to for advice. I don't know if I'm eating the right food or if I am, or if I'm eating well for my diabetes but other parts of my body aren't getting the right nutrients. I'm also worried about my future. Maybe I'll put it into remission, maybe I won't. I've been crying about recently even though I've lost a stone in weight over a month. Please, help
 
Hi @WendyGallaghee and welcome to the forum.
Are you on strong diabetes medication (something other than Metformin) if you are then you may need to reduce carbs very carefully because low carb works better than most medicines and if you take a dose meant for somebody eating the usual amount of carbohydrates, then the medicine can force your BG down too low. With a bit of planning this can be handles by reducing the dose of medications, but either way you need a BG Meter in order to see what is going on.

Most of us who were serious about using a low carb way of eating to either control our T2 diabetes or to put it into remission self-funded a Blood Glucose meter to enable us to see exactly how well our body copes with different meals. Most of us did it against the (short sighted) advice form our GP Practices, the majority of which don't understand that we want feedback on a meal by meal basis when we are making great strides in reducing our Blood Glucose levels.
Finding out that you have been eating some things your body didn't handle very well up to 3 months after the events is just pointless! Most people can't remember what they ate last week.

The good thing about a Blood Glucose meter is that it doesn't make excuses or give opinions - it tells you exactly how well you are doing and if that extra potato in that meal was a bad idea!
The way to test meals is to start with say the easiest meal to fix, which is breakfast. This is because most people eat the same or a similar breakfast almost every day. Test your Blood Glucose level just before breakfast and then again 2hrs after starting to eat. If the BL reading rises by more than 2.0 mmol. then perhaps you either need to reduce portions of the most carby food, or substitute it for something with fewer carbs. Ultimately we want to have BG levels that stay below 8.0 mmols even 2 hrs after all out meals.

I used to eat what I thought was a healthy breakfast, well it may have been healthy for a non-diabetic, but it was really bad for a Type 2 like me. It was a large bowl of porridge and a large banana (both of which contain a lot of carbohydrates). I was horrified when I got my BG Meter and tested 2 hrs after eating that. I soon settled on eggs for breakfast eggs cooked any way are good, but avoid adding bread. Alternatives are bacon, cold meat, cheese, full fat Greek Yoghurt with berries and/or seeds and/or nuts.

The main cost with testing meals is the cost of the test strips because you have to test the exact same meal a few times to make sure you will know in future how big a BG rise it will give you.
These are the 2 common BG meters with relatively cheap test strips:
SD Gluco Navii
Spirit TEE2
 
Thanks for the reply. I'm on no meds at all. I'm being monitored and at my next blood test they are gonna check to see if my blood sugar has went down. They just told me I had type 2 and to exercise and change my diet.
Was told I did not need the blood sugar tests that you mentioned.
Im already watching my carb and sugar intake, using my fitness pal to track this. I've bombarded myself with videos and websites but I'm still really worried. I think I better speak to a doctor, i think I need emotional support with this.
 
Hi everyone, on April 12th this year I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I took the news well, started exercise and diet (low carb and sugar, cutting out sweets etc) but it's hit me today just how serious this could be.
Welcome to the forums. Although I had suspected for some time, (my symptoms were bad,) I only plucked up the courage to get help about six weeks ago and got my official diagnosis just over a month ago. Since that time diet and medication has help a lot with the symptoms.

Even though I was fairly certain I was type 2, having it confirmed was a still a real shock. Also, the learning curve, (jargon and diet along with possible complications) is a lot to take in. Being on this site and reading other peoples stories really helps a lot.
  • It makes me realise how truly stupid my denial was
  • It gives me areas of research to help understand my current condition
  • Ditto research but understanding possible complications
  • It helps me understand, how I can modify and change my diet to adjust to changing circumstances
  • It cheers me up to know that, despite my stupidity, I probably caught it in time to avoid a serious bullet
  • Trying to help other people, keeps my mind off my own problems
  • The community has members from a wide range of backgrounds and ages, is truly non-judgemental and very supportive
  • Much, much more .....

I don't know who to turn to for advice. I don't know if I'm eating the right food or if I am, or if I'm eating well for my diabetes b

Since Type 2 diet guidance is a regular question, I have prepared this text which I can just copy/paste:

There is a meal planner here in the main DiabetesUK domain, which may be of use. Along with a search box, the page also has a navigation bar that will allow you to browse a large number of good quality articles on suitable foods, recipes, (including vegetarian,) ... etc, etc.

The general advice is to cut back on carbs, they all get converted to sugar. My Doctor gave me a target for my daily carb allowance. Since cutting back too quickly on the carbs can lead to complications, this initial target will, along with your medical history, depend on your previous eating habits. The most important thing to note is that you have to reduce your carb intake in stages.

Get into the habit of looking at the nutritional info on prepared foods, snacks etc and don't be fooled by labels which say: "Healthy Option". They may be healthy, but they can also have a very high carb content. If, like me, you lack the discipline to just have one chocolate digestive, then it is probably best to avoid high sugar biscuits completely. Ditto with packets of crisps, tortillas and the like. Sugar is another no-no: Avoid sugary drinks and, if you can stomach them , use saccharine or some other sweetener in tea and coffee. If not, drink your morning cuppa unsweetened. With respect to soft drinks, note that there is a difference between "sugar free" and "no added sugar". It is the latter which should be your beverage of choice.

In general, you should only have very small, tiny daily portions of high carb veg, grains and cereals. Basically, cut back drastically on: pasta (32g/100g), rice (30g/100g), potato (18g/100g), and bread (18g/slice).

Low carb substitutes for the preceding are:
  • Potato: Mooli (3g/100g), a type of radish, can be chopped up and cooked with a very small potato and some neeps (5g/100g) or squash (7g/100g). I microwave them together for about 25 minutes or until the mooli is soft to the fork. As someone who traditionally piles on the spuds, I find this surprisingly effective. It is a large root, and I usually get two or three meals out of one. (Yesterday I cut out the small potato for the first time)
  • Rice: Cauliflower (4g/100g) can be used to make a rice substitute. If you like, you can follow the BBC recipe, but I usually just finely dice it.
  • Pasta: Courgettes (2g/100g), can be used to make a pasta substitute. Again, rather than spiralize the courgette, I generally just cut the courgette into thinnish slices, (or even grate it,) to make either a Farfalle or Orzo type of pasta. Then, with a dash of olive oil infused with either fresh garlic or crushed chillies, I microwave it à la dent for about a minute or so.
  • Bread: The lowest carbs per slice substitute I have found is Ryvita Crackerbread Original (4g/slice) and for variety Oatcakes (6g/slice). Though, because the latter is 50% higher in carbs per slice, I limit myself to 3 oatcakes per day. (About 18g of carbs, or 7% of my current daily carb allowance)
Another thing to avoid is "most" tropical fruits as they have a high sugar content. Apples and berries have a much lower sugar content, as does fruit which is not fully ripened. Also, be warned, many legumes, dried or tinned, can have a very high carb content: Kidney Beans (22g/100g), Spilt Peas (21g/100g), Chickpeas (17g/100g), Butter Beans (15g/100g) .... etc, etc.

For snacking, tree nuts:, almonds, walnuts, hazelnuts.... are all good. On the other hand dried fruit like raisins and sultanas are full of sugar. (That is why grapes are used to make great wine)

Remember: Often the carb content can be surprising, at 8g/100g onions are a mid-range vegetable and at 15g/100g garlic is up there with potato. So, take nothing for granted, always check the nutritional info and use much smaller portions where appropriate.

Note: The garlic example was mainly to illustrate how carb content can be surprising. But, a typical clove of garlic weighs roughly 8 grams. So, if you like garlic, three cloves/day is equivalent to one slice of Crakerbread, and, believe me, the odd 4 grams of carbs here and 5 grams there can quickly add up!

End of prepared text

I hope we see you more often, the forum really does help.
Irvine
 
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Thanks for the reply. I'm on no meds at all. I'm being monitored and at my next blood test they are gonna check to see if my blood sugar has went down. They just told me I had type 2 and to exercise and change my diet.
Was told I did not need the blood sugar tests that you mentioned.
Im already watching my carb and sugar intake, using my fitness pal to track this. I've bombarded myself with videos and websites but I'm still really worried. I think I better speak to a doctor, i think I need emotional support with this.

Welcome to the forum @WendyGallaghee

You are doing really well. And the feeling of anxiety and being overwhelmed you are experiencing are completely valid and normal. A diagnosis with diabetes can really shake you up. Some people liken it to a form of grieving, with the whirlwind of feelings of denial, anger, depression, bargaining, and ultimately acceptance that any form of grief can involve.

Diabetes is a serious condition, but it’s also one that can usually be managed well with a few changes and adaptations - it’s something that you can learn to live well with long-term, and it shouldn’t stop you doing things you enjoy. As you have discovered, people’s reactions to diabetes can be very individual, and it’s likely that no one else’s diabetes will respond or behave quite like yours. But with a little experimentation and attention you will soon become the world’s foremost expert in your own individual diabetes.

An intitial period of ‘getting this sorted’ focus, can sometimes be followed by a bit of a bump as you realise that this is not something that is going to go away - most likely you are in this for the long haul. And while there is increasing evidence that some people can put their diabetes into remission (effective glucose management without the need for meds). Hopefully you will find that your diagnosis becomes a kind of catalyst which helps you to focus on keeping yourself well and make positive changes towards a healthier and more active life. Changes which can be all too easy to put off without a motivating factor!

Take a breath and be kind to yourself 🙂
 
You have had lots of advice from the posts above but getting a blood glucose monitor is one of the tools that will help you know if what you are doing is being effective. The advice from GPs of not to test is like telling people to drive their car without a speedometer, would you do that? hopefully not.
Waiting for three months for another HbA1C is not helpful for keeping on track in early days, when people find they have not made progress and get forced onto medication.
 
Hi @WendyGallaghee, it's great to see you've joined the forum! Being diagnosed can be a bit of mind field but I can assure you that your taking all the necessary steps and you should be proud of all your achievements! Hopefully your next appointment goes well and we'll be happy to hear about how it goes. 🙂
 
Hi Wendy - I'm fairly newly diagnosed too and have been using a BG monitor from the start which has really helped to focus me. I also use MFP which I find brilliant. I may have reduced my carbs a bit too quickly (although was also put on Metformin) as my eyesight went a bit squiffy for a bit. When I had a repeat HbA1c it had gone down from 95 to 76 and that was only in about 6 weeks (they repeated it early because I was going to see the specialist). I have since been told that I don't need to start insulin and that I can reduce my testing to 3 random tests a week but there is NO way I'm going to do that as I know I will lose focus and start sneaking things in again. I am lucky (actually probably not!) that because I'm Type 3 (from having surgery) I am not having to pay for my strips etc. I bet you will get a lovely surprise when you have your bloods repeated and in the meantime stay close to these forums for excellent advice and for making you feel as though you're not the odd one out.
 
Some good advice here. Lots of great advice across the whole forum. You are in the right place to be able to learn to help yourself best.

Remember, every step in the right direction is a small, but significant victory. But it is a race (not sure that that is the right word, its more like a complete change of lifestyle and thinking) you can live with and claim a worthy life long victory.

Oh, and yes, getting a blood glucose monitor and using it is one of the keys to success.

Hmm, keys of success?

1. Getting and using a blood glucose monitor
2. Reducing carbohydrate intake and increasing protein and fat intake
3. Reducing weight (if needed)
4. Increasing exercise
5. Sleeping well
6. Setting yourself some small achievable, goals
7. Setting yourself a few longer term goals (with the real hope of achieving them)
8. Reading the forum threads, noting peoples successes, struggles, advice
9. Taking personal responsibility and control for every aspect of your life as much as you can manage
10. Do not be too hard on yourself. There will be ups and downs
999. Give yourself some small rewards or treats every so often

And remember it does take time to get to know what your body and mind can cope with and you will not explode if you do not seem to get it right sometimes.
 
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Don't think it's a race at all but if it is, it's a marathon not a 100m sprint. Mainly though - you need to do things at your own speed not someone else's, because it's your health, your diabetes.

Importantly - you will actually get there!
 
I was terrified too when first diagnosed but you do get used to the glucose tests and it is all trial and error.
 
Hi everyone, on April 12th this year I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. I took the news well, started exercise and diet (low carb and sugar, cutting out sweets etc) but it's hit me today just how serious this could be. I'm not on Metaformim, i have an appointment in July to see if my blood sugar has gone down through my lifestyle change.
Today, I've been upset. I feel so alone, I don't know anyone who has this in my friends and family. They all do try to help and tell me what to eat but what works for them won't work for me. High carbs etc. I don't know who to turn to for advice. I don't know if I'm eating the right food or if I am, or if I'm eating well for my diabetes but other parts of my body aren't getting the right nutrients. I'm also worried about my future. Maybe I'll put it into remission, maybe I won't. I've been crying about recently even though I've lost a stone in weight over a month. Please, help
Hi Wendy I am new here but just want to offer you some support as I know how the worries of diabetes can affect mental health. You are not alone in your feelings - I have had type 1 for 30 years and have suffered the ups and downs with mental health and feeling worried about my condition. Luckily there is a lot of help around and you will find your way, perhaps even reverse the situation. Keep strong xx
 
@trophywench yes, it was a stupid choice of words. I absolutely agree it is not a race.
 
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