New treatment?

[chattygirl197811]

What does everyone think about this?

http://uk.health.lifestyle.yahoo.net/new-diabetes-drug.htm

It seems encouraging to me but then I was diagnosed a few months ago and am still getting to grips with things

 

[sweetsatin]

What does everyone think about this?

http://uk.health.lifestyle.yahoo.net/new-diabetes-drug.htm

It seems encouraging to me but then I was diagnosed a few months ago and am still getting to grips with things

Hi Chattygirl
I was at my monthly meeting last night, the speaker was a general practitioner with a particular expertise in Diabetes, he spoke about that particular drug.
GLP-1 PEN costing ?80 a month
The Victoza and byetta = weight loss and no hypos, he said they are also bringing out a monthly one.
I can't really comment on the drugs as i know very little about them.
He also made it known that Metformin was ok.
What was made very clear was that newly diagnosed should not be prescribed Glibenclamide or Gliciazide as they cause weight gain and hypos.

 

[lauraw1983]

Hi Chattygirl
IHe also made it known that Metformin was ok.
What was made very clear was that newly diagnosed should not be prescribed Glibenclamide or Gliciazide as they cause weight gain and hypos.

😱 Is this correct?! Why are they talking about me going onto Gliclazide then?? I thought it just boosted insulin production and then the metformin helped your body use it more effectively??

 

[lucy123]

😱 Is this correct?! Why are they talking about me going onto Gliclazide then?? I thought it just boosted insulin production and then the metformin helped your body use it more effectively??

My consultant really feels that Byetta would help me considerably, but the PTC say I don't fit the NICE guidelines so I can't have it! I think it has a lot to do with the difference in cost between my current Metformin and Acarbose compared to Byetta! He did comment that he believed the NICE guidelines would change shortly - I wonder what he knows!🙂

 

[Mark T]

NICE criteria actually say to use Gliciazide (or similar) if you have high blood sugars on diagnosis as metformin won't bring it down quickly.

Except for Metformin, pretty much all diabetes treatments can cause weight gain - newer drugs like Victoza and Byetta probably the exceptions.

 

[lauraw1983]

NICE criteria actually say to use Gliciazide (or similar) if you have high blood sugars on diagnosis as metformin won't bring it down quickly.

Except for Metformin, pretty much all diabetes treatments can cause weight gain - newer drugs like Victoza and Byetta probably the exceptions.

This just gets more and more confusing!!!

 

[sweetsatin]

This just gets more and more confusing!!!

I don't know much about the drugs it's confusing to me too, its all to do with the cost.

 

[squidge63]

I think Steff was on Victoza for a while, I can't remember if any other members here are or were on it. I was on Byetta for the recommended 6 months, and if Victoza is anything like Byetta, I lost weight because I couldn't eat the Byetta make me so sick I stopped taking it.

From the Victoza site:

Victoza? may cause nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea leading to dehydration, which may cause kidney failure. This can happen in people who have never had kidney problems before. Drinking plenty of fluids may reduce your chance of dehydration.

The most common side effects with Victoza? include headache, nausea, and diarrhea. Nausea is most common when first starting Victoza?, but decreases over time in most people. Immune system related reactions, including hives, were more common in people treated with Victoza? compared to people treated with other diabetes drugs in medical studies.

I didn't think it was a new drug, this is from Diabetes.co.uk which was written 2010:

Victoza (liraglutide), manufactured by Novo Nordisk, has already been approved in the UK since July 2009. However, the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence took some time to review whether the drug is clinically effective and cost effective for type 2 diabetes patients.

NICE concluded that a single daily injection of Liraglutide could be given alongside two anti-diabetic medications. The treatment would specifically be for type 2 diabetes patients also suffering from obesity. As well as helping patients to control and lower blood glucose levels, the diabetes drug also suppresses the appetite of users.

I don't know if NICE's advice is the same as above now?

Lauraw1983, yes you are correct it does stimulate the pancreas, but also has the tendency to put on weight, but so do a lot of tablets. You just have to have a healthy diet and excercise like we are all told when diagnosed as a type 2...

 

[squidge63]

Metformin is used so that any insulin that you are producing is picked up. The way it was explained to me was; the insulin that I was producing wasn't being picked up by the receptors which have become desensitised. The Metformin works on the receptors making them sensitive so they pick up the insulin. Then a year later I was on put on Glizclazide to boost my insulin production and obviously was kept on the Metformin. About 8 months later I started on Insulin and am still on Metformin but the dose has increased to 3G a day..