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Just been diagnosed type 2 having been rushed into hospital with acute pancreatitis and after being on a drip for 6 days had my gall bladder removed!Anyway,I bought a Metrix Air machine from Boots and had a 10.5 figure at 3pm this afternoon…went for a 30 minute walk and when I tested again it was 7.6!!
Is that possible or have I done it wrongly??
 
Noggin the Nog said:
Just been diagnosed type 2 having been rushed into hospital with acute pancreatitis and after being on a drip for 6 days had my gall bladder removed!Anyway,I bought a Metrix Air machine from Boots and had a 10.5 figure at 3pm this afternoon…went for a 30 minute walk and when I tested again it was 7.6!!
Is that possible or have I done it wrongly??
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Whether that is correct or possible a bit more information is needed as blood glucose will normally go up and down during the day depending on many factors, what you have eaten, how much exercise, medication, how hydrated you are. Random testing doesn't tell you much so a more targeted strategy is what people normally adopt depending what they are using the test for.
People often test first thing in the morning to give a fasting level which the aim is to be between 4 and 7mmol/l, they might then test before they eat and after 2 hours to determine if a particular meal is tolerated when either an increase of no more than 2-3mmol/l or no more than 8-8.5mmol/l means your meal is OK.
Other testing may be if you feel unwell.
As you have had issues with your pancreas you may not be a straightforward Type 2 and people would then be Type 3c which is treated more like Type 1, this may be something to discuss with your doctor as measures that would apply to somebody who is Type 2 to manage blood glucose may not be appropriate for you.
 
Hi and welcome.

Very sorry to hear you have had acute pancreatitis. I believe it is one of the most painful conditions to have. I hope you are recovering well from your surgery. It is worth knowing and mentioning to your doctors and nurses that you will actually be Type 3c and not Type 2 diabetic. Diabetes type is categorized by the cause. Type 1 is due to an autoimmune attack on the insulin producing beta cells, Type 2 is metabolic and Type 3c is due to damage, disease or surgical removal of the pancreas. The pancreas is the organ which produces insulin so your ability to produce enough to balance your Blood Glucose (BG) levels will be compromised by the inflammation in your pancreas. Many health care professionals are unaware of this category of diabetes but it is important that you bring it to their attention, so that you get appropriate treatment.

It is also important for you to know that BG levels rise and fall throughout the day and night in response to a number of different factors (42 known ones) but food exercise and medication are the 3 biggest influencers, so yes, walking for 30mins will help to drop your levels.
 
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Yes, that’s possible. Exercise can bring blood sugar down, especially walking. (Intense exercise can make it go up.)

Also, the meters do have a margin of error, so you may get different results with each test.

For example, a reading of 7.6 might indicate the actual blood sugar is be between maybe 6 and 9, and the 10 between 9 and 12…
 
Noggin the Nog said:
Just been diagnosed type 2 having been rushed into hospital with acute pancreatitis and after being on a drip for 6 days had my gall bladder removed!Anyway,I bought a Metrix Air machine from Boots and had a 10.5 figure at 3pm this afternoon…went for a 30 minute walk and when I tested again it was 7.6!!
Is that possible or have I done it wrongly??
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Hi Noggin the Nog, new here myself,only joined yesterday.
Sorry to hear about your surgery. Just wanted to welcome you and although I don’t have much knowledge to share yet, there are lots of lovely people who do and are very willing to help. All the best with your recovery and journey.
 
Evening Noggin.A drop of 3 is perfectly possible with even a gentle 30 minute walk and a number of us will regularly go for a walk if our levels are rising quickly.Mine can drop 4-5 even on a brisk 15-20 minute walk well at least on the Libre which we know can exaggerate the drop when dropping fast.
Suspect like me you are possibly fairly responsive to exercise if you are still in your honeymoon period.
Barabara has highlighted the possibility of 3c which is correlated with pancreatic damage such as following an acute Pancreatitis attack.
However if you did not have necrosis then it is less of a possibility and often there is a delay between an acute pancreatitis episode and the development of 3c diabetes so mine was diagnosed some 18 months after my admission to hospital.
I had necrosis of my exocrine cells and my Consultant said that due to where the endocrine cells were located in the Pancreas and then I may not have had them damaged.
However,I believe it may not always be the direct damage to the endocrine that triggers the 3c but the way the exocrine and endocrine cells are linked then that can affect the Beta cells which produce the insulin.
Anyway best of luck and have you been prescribed Creon or not.
 
Hi @Noggin the Nog (I remember him - after Pugwash but before the clangers (??)) and welcome to the forum.

Suggest you get yourself a notebook and pencil, keep it by your testing kit, and start noting down the measurements you get for the next few days. Take tests when you get up, before you eat and a couple of hours after. You do not have to test around every meal, but the sooner you get some numbers, the sooner you can start to look for patterns.

Broadly,

If you get mostly single figures (less than 10) with the odd number in double figures after eating, then that's pretty normal and its likely your pancreatitis has not been done any permanent damage.
If they are mostly in double figures (greater than 10) and creeping up towards the 20's then get back to your GP because some action might be a good idea.
If you have lots of readings up in the 20s then get back to your GP sharpish as it could be an indicator of real problems brewing.

At this stage don't try and read much more than that into the numbers. Worry about the detail when you have got the bigger picture in focus.

Another tip....don't worry about the number after the decimal point. Hand held meters do not measure blood glucose that accurately. I would report the numbers you got as 10 and 8, and in the world of finger bodging they are not statistically significantly different. That's why it is not wise to read much into odd readings. You need bigger blocks of data so you can see tends and patterns.

Good luck and feel free to tap into the knowledge of the forum finger bodgers to help you get to grips with what you find.
 
Welcome to the forum @Noggin the Nog

And thank you for the trip down memory lane that is your username!

It sounds like you might be another new member with pancreatitis who may need to run the gauntlet of getting your healthcare professionals to understand about Type 3c - @eggyg was one of our first to jump through those hoops, and may have some hints or tips 🙂
 
Thanks everybody for your replies,and thanks Whatsnext(great name)in 2023 I’ve wondered Whatsnext as I’ve been diagnosed with Deverticulitis,Pancreatitis,Bile Duct stone,Gall bladder removed and now Diabetic type 2
Roll on 2024
 
Noggin the Nog said:
Thanks everybody for your replies,and thanks Whatsnext(great name)in 2023 I’ve wondered Whatsnext as I’ve been diagnosed with Deverticulitis,Pancreatitis,Bile Duct stone,Gall bladder removed and now Diabetic type 2
Roll on 2024
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Keep your chin up Noggin plenty of support on here🙂
 
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