New T2 On one blood test

[Deleted member 21371]

To be fair, "all carbs convert to glucose" is nonsense as a statement on how we deal with that as type 2s.
We produce insulin in varying amounts.
We are insulin resistant in varying amounts.
Any carb is digested at a different speed.
So a meal of pure sugar could easily produce a monster spike in someone struggling with insulin response and insulin resistance.
A meal of a very low GI carb, mixed with fat and protein, with someone exercising to reduce insulin resistance, and producing a good insulin response may may even register.
That's before you look at the quantity.
Granola is quite dense, you might eat 100g, and so ingest 45g of carbs.
Puffed wheat is airy, you may fill the same space with 50g of puffed what, and so I get only 35g.

And on a 900 calorie diet, I didn't even bother carb counting, by definition that number of calories is low carb enough.

 

[silentsquirrel]

Morning
I was hoping someone might help me with the following. I am following my diet and whilst it’s tough I am doing ok. I’ve got in my head the following thought from somewhere.
When looking at carbs and the value of suger per 100g that figure always needs to be 4% or under ?
Is this correct and should I be following this .
My muesli this morning was a new packet bought before I got my “news” and it reads
Carbs per 100 g suger = 16% so I’m about to throw away.
Hopefully what I’ve written makes some sense to you guys!!!

It depends what level of carbs you are aiming at. Some people have a rule for themselves that they don't eat anything above a certain % of carbs, maybe 10%, but that doesn't take portion size into consideration. Things like mustard, ketchup, salad cream can be high in carbs per 100g ie as a %, but unless you eat a very large portion the amount of carbs will be low for a portion.

Rather than throw it away, you could perhaps have a small amount on top of Greek/Greek style plain yogurt and berries? So maybe 10 - 15g rather than a 30 - 50g portion with milk?

I would also go with @Leadinglights, ignore the "of which sugars" figure, just use the total carbs. Ignore the traffic lights, you will only find total carbs in the full nutritional information box. 16% sounds like sugars, carbs for muesli are more likely to be around 60%.

 

[March]

It depends what level of carbs you are aiming at. Some people have a rule for themselves that they don't eat anything above a certain % of carbs, maybe 10%, but that doesn't take portion size into consideration. Things like mustard, ketchup, salad cream can be high in carbs per 100g ie as a %, but unless you eat a very large portion the amount of carbs will be low for a portion.

Rather than throw it away, you could perhaps have a small amount on top of Greek/Greek style plain yogurt and berries? So maybe 10 - 15g rather than a 30 - 50g portion with milk?

I would also go with @Leadinglights, ignore the "of which sugars" figure, just use the total carbs. Ignore the traffic lights, you will only find total carbs in the full nutritional information box. 16% sounds like sugars, carbs for muesli are more likely to be around 60%.

Thankyou for your help. Since I started my highest total carbs has been 91 so from what you are saying if I stick to trying to keep my carbs at about 80/85 per day and ignore suger content by carbs I’m ok.
So just checked and the granola this morning is 30g carbs in 45g portion.

For someone new to this it’s confusing, but I’m going to now concentrate on carb figure?

 

[Leadinglights]

Thankyou for your help. Since I started my highest total carbs has been 91 so from what you are saying if I stick to trying to keep my carbs at about 80/85 per day and ignore suger content by carbs I’m ok.
So just checked and the granola this morning is 30g carbs in 45g portion.

For someone new to this it’s confusing, but I’m going to now concentrate on carb figure?

I would suggest you perhaps have half that portion with some full fat Greek yoghurt and a few berries to keep your carbs for breakfast to about 20g carbs

 

[March]

Ok I can do this so would you suggest my carbs total for the day at 80 / 85 is a little high.
Yesterday it was 91 with total calories of 900

 

[Leadinglights]

Ok I can do this so would you suggest my carbs total for the day at 80 / 85 is a little high.
Yesterday it was 91 with total calories of 900

I wasn't suggesting that necessarily because everybody has to determine how much and what type of carbs they as an individual can tolerate and they will determine that by using a blood glucose monitor to test the effect of various foods.
Some people can't tolerate the same amount of carbs if it is bread but can if it is rice and vice versa.
I was more suggesting you might find with a breakfast with less carbs and more protein and healthy fat you would start the day with a lower blood glucose level than if it was only carbs.
It is hard to be watching both carbs and calories but you have to find a balance which suits you.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Ok I can do this so would you suggest my carbs total for the day at 80 / 85 is a little high.
Yesterday it was 91 with total calories of 900

You really have to make a choice of whether you are going low carb or low calorie.
Trying to watch both takes over entirely, as you are finding out.
Also decide how long you want to do this for.
Low carb tends to be a diet control for life, low calorie is shorter term, after which you need to review what you want to do then.
Many choose low carb, and claim it's an easier regime.
I chose low calorie simply to lose weight, as I wanted to reverse my diabetes, then not worry over what I ate.

 

[March]

Bad day today. I weigh myself Tuesday and Friday mornings.
Can not believe this morning that I’m a 1lb heavier. Yes I had a couple and I mean a couple of glasses of wine Sunday with a roast dinner where I had two very small roast potatoes but I played golf in morning m, first time in two years, walking 15,000 steps pushing my clubs.
Not sure how that happens but it’s very disappointing.

 

[Leadinglights]

Bad day today. I weigh myself Tuesday and Friday mornings.
Can not believe this morning that I’m a 1lb heavier. Yes I had a couple and I mean a couple of glasses of wine Sunday with a roast dinner where I had two very small roast potatoes but I played golf in morning m, first time in two years, walking 15,000 steps pushing my clubs.
Not sure how that happens but it’s very disappointing.

May all depend on how hydrated you are, if you have been to the loo, probably not a genuine increase.

 

[March]

May all depend on how hydrated you are, if you have been to the loo, probably not a genuine increase.

I do hope not. Still I will keep going. Having read so much on here I am cancelling my appointment at Dr for second blood test and will go 10 weeks after being given the news to have best chance of reducing figure.
Dr said redo test after two weeks which from what I have read makes little sense.

 

[JWHP]

Bad day today. I weigh myself Tuesday and Friday mornings.
Can not believe this morning that I’m a 1lb heavier. Yes I had a couple and I mean a couple of glasses of wine Sunday with a roast dinner where I had two very small roast potatoes but I played golf in morning m, first time in two years, walking 15,000 steps pushing my clubs.
Not sure how that happens but it’s very disappointing.

I certainly know that feeling ... I weigh myself every day, and then take an average over the week. I find that that's much better to show the overall trend.

 

[Drummer]

Bad day today. I weigh myself Tuesday and Friday mornings.
Can not believe this morning that I’m a 1lb heavier. Yes I had a couple and I mean a couple of glasses of wine Sunday with a roast dinner where I had two very small roast potatoes but I played golf in morning m, first time in two years, walking 15,000 steps pushing my clubs.
Not sure how that happens but it’s very disappointing.

But are you keeping your blood glucose in normal numbers?
Staying under 8mmol/l at 2 hours after eating seemed to be the point at which things turned around for me.

 

[March]

Hi all I have just started my 4th week and Dr today agreed to my second blood test being delayed until Mid December. HBA1C was 49 on first. Working hard to reduce weight and increase exercise. Last two days 800 calories and yesterday 80g carbs, but today 890 cals and 98g carbs.
Is this level of carbs likely to be ok in reducing my BG for next test .

I feel like I’m asking same question over and over but I’m keen to get this right.
16,000 steps Sunday and 11,000 Monday and again Tuesday. Do I need more exercise than this ?
The input from those with experience really helps me and motivates me whilst also guiding to make good decisions

 

[Leadinglights]

Hi all I have just started my 4th week and Dr today agreed to my second blood test being delayed until Mid December. HBA1C was 49 on first. Working hard to reduce weight and increase exercise. Last two days 800 calories and yesterday 80g carbs, but today 890 cals and 98g carbs.
Is this level of carbs likely to be ok in reducing my BG for next test .

I feel like I’m asking same question over and over but I’m keen to get this right.
16,000 steps Sunday and 11,000 Monday and again Tuesday. Do I need more exercise than this ?
The input from those with experience really helps me and motivates me whilst also guiding to make good decisions

That seems like a sensible amount of carbs, reducing your carbs too quickly can give your eye of nerve issues. Your exercise should be something manageable otherwise you will lose enthusiasm. If your steps are with purpose as in brisk walking rather than ambling, it is a good start.