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New doctors, new diabetic review.

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pav

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After the long decision to change the doctors, looks like it was the right decision. 🙂

1st appointment of the day, with the doctor for this persistent cough went through what was going on, and him checking me out. I have been taken off the Ramipril and switched to an alternative blood pressure tablet. BP was still high at 85 / 162 even asked about any swelling and pain in the ankles, so much for the previous practice saying it was gout (test for that was clear).

Whole blood levels were well down on what they should be, was told to stop taking the iron tablets as they want to see what's going on with out them and starting diagnosis from scratch. Got to go back in a couple of weeks, to see what's the next steps are.

Later in the day diabetic review, after introductions first question was where's your meter, never ever been asked to produce it before. She looked through the readings spotted the high ones. 🙂

She said some of the high readings could of been false reading due to leaving the meals a bit late and the liver doing a glucose dump. I mentioned the wild swings and had looked at the possibility of going on to victozia, I do not qualify on one point in that I fought to get my levels down and currently running new money 46.

Gliclazide has been adjusted to 40 mg 3 times a day to see what happens and hopefully drop the peaks and to see it it stops the swinging all over the place.

Next was do you want to do the Expert course, never ever been offered that before since being diagnosed in 2000.

The feet check was next, and confirmed that the nerve damage was present, and the cream to protect the feet from cracking was changed to a more suitable one to sort out the whole of the foot and not just specific parts.

Food and life style was gone over and I said carb intake was higher than I would like and needed more refinement, which she agreed its worth looking at. She did say I need to do some more exercise.

Then went over the sex and alcohol bit which was done with tact and care, even came out with a phrase I not heard in years, "do you wake up with a morning glory?"

She asked why I used 2 different meters (thought to myself here we go again). I explained I use the accu chek mobile for driving and the next usb for the main meter as the reporting software is excellent. She was happy with the explanations was no problem.

Next came the DVLA thing, is one aware when getting a hypo, thankfully its a yes with me, other wise bye bye licence. Next was testing and is one following DVLA guide lines (shock horror) first time I have been asked that. She said I need to test according to guide lines and asked when I test, she was well happy with the answer. 🙂

She also said most doctors are not aware of DVLA guidelines and if people don't test when driving can be bye bye to licence again, depending on the meds one is one. Being on gliclazide means having to test. 🙂

Don't think I will have any problems getting test strips from her, after having to justify why I wanted test strips.

In all a very good first new annual diabetic review. I have to go back in 3 weeks with print outs from the meters, and to see how the new pattern of meds is working.
 
That sounds a very positive and productive apt Pav, very pleased for you.
 
Gosh she sounds great. Why aren't all diabetes clinics like that?!!! 🙂
 
Wow! I'm so pleased you're now getting the care that you should have been receiving all along. Well done for taking that first step.
 
Terrific pav, really pleased to hear all this, it sounds extremely positive. I hope that all the proposed changes add up to you feeling happier and healthier, and with steadier levels 🙂
 
It was a complete shock to me, appointment lasted 40 mins and it was a two way conversation. Its what I would call a very good result. Never had such a review before, she explained any thing that I asked. Even given the opportunity to ask more questions at the end but think I was still shocked at the positive approach, did not know what to ask.

Just need to see if I can get off gliclazide onto some thing better, but may not happen, time will tell and see what happens with my levels over the next 3 weeks.
 
That's good news Pav, what was that about DVLA and gliclazide and testing while driving? Never been told anything about that?
 
Pete, as gliclazide or any other med that cause hypos, you have to be hypo aware and know what symptoms you get when going hypo, though you can only tell what your own symptoms are like once you experience a hypo or two.

As on a med that cause a hypo you must test before starting driving, then every two hours whilst driving.

Myself cant trust the two hour time limit, so I test a a max of 1 1/2 whilst driving., I can loose 10.0 m/mols in two hours at its worst.
 
I take one after breakfast and one after tea 80mg but never suffered a hypo but not on any other medication. Best of luck with your new doctor ..
 
Do you drive? as if you do, you need to ask your doc for test strips on prescription and quote DVLA guidelines as a reason for requesting test strips. If you already get test strips you are one of the lucky ones who get them.

Might of put it a bit badly on the hypo aware. If you never had a hypo, you would not be hypo aware until you had one. May be another tricky point when dealing with questions that one is asked.
 
I have to buy my monitor and strips from Amazon, struggle to get out from my doctor, take eye drops every day and the bottle only last about three weeks but do you think he will let me have more than one at a time ? No chance... Have tried to get strips but with no luck. ( I do drive )
 
I have to buy my monitor and strips from Amazon, struggle to get out from my doctor, take eye drops every day and the bottle only last about three weeks but do you think he will let me have more than one at a time ? No chance... Have tried to get strips but with no luck. ( I do drive )

Your doctor MUST prescribe you strips since you take gliclizide Pete, he has no option. Don't take no for an answer!
 
I had the same problem with my old doc, in the end sent a letter to the practice quoting DVLA guide lines, and without test strips I would be breaking the DVLA rules on driving.

This got my strips re-added at a decent qty, though noticed on my last repeat the one type of lancets I used has disappeared. I also used the fast clix lancing device which is more gentle on ones fingers, so will happily switch to them.

Also my new docs said not messing around with one months supply, and put the repeats to cover 2 months worth of supplies.
 
Ok guys thanks for that, you live and learn.... Shame not from doctor tho..
 
All the information is here, Pete H, on the UK government website: https://www.gov.uk/diabetes-driving
While it is a shame your doctor didn't mention the need to inform DVLA, it is the responsibility of the driving licence holder. Doctors can recommend that someone informs DVLA, but will only go over-ride refusal of patient to self-inform in exceptional circumstances.
Having carried out your legal responsibility to inform DVLA, you have the moral high ground to request your GP issues strips sufficient for driving related blood glucose testing. They should already have issued strips when prescribing glicazide, as that can cause hypos.
 
I will look into this, do I need to tell my insurance ?. Looking back when I first starting taking these tablets I did have a bit of a turn at work but a customer came in and noticed lucky enough she is a diabetic so got me packet of biscuits from next door, she asked me what I was taking and she did say you could have hypo with them, but since then if I get the shakes I just eat and all is ok... ( doctor never said out about this )
 
Yes, you must inform your car insurance company.

Most companies just want to know that you have informed DVLA and that you comply with guidelines for when to test and what levels are acceptable for driving - not identical to normal target ranges. Insurance companies will do anything to avoid paying out if you make a claim, so inform DVLA, inform insurance company that you have done so. Prices should not rise just because of diabetes (due to quality legislation), unlike changing jobs, home address, increasing age etc.

Be very careful how you complete DVLA forms about hypoglycaemia - ticking yes when you mean no or vice versa could mean losing your licence and taking months to get it back. See DVLA / driving section of this forum for more details.
 
It's no excuse but I never had any idea of this !! I always thought unless your on insulin you did not need to do out !! Get sorted as soon as poss......
 
In your defence Pete I have looked for clarification on this before and when I last looked the DVLA guidelines were very woolly about tablets. Saying 'anything that causes hypos' in some places and 'no need if only treated by tablets' elsewhere.

The link Copepod provided is much clearer (though I note that it says you do NOT need to tell the DVLA if driving a normal car and taking Sulfs)

Diabetes treated by Sulphonylureas or Glinide tablets (or both)
Car or motorcycle licence
You don’t need to tell DVLA. Read leaflet INF188/2 to find out more about driving with diabetes.

I really don't understand it... but them's the rules.
 
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I have been reading bits and pieces of it, at work so read when I get home, but as you say it says if on tablets or diet no need to inform them ? Best phone and ask, just had a battle with them over road tax... Sent me a letter to say my car had not been taxed for six months? But I had disk on the car stamped to say it was !!! So had to take photo to prove it was but what peed me off was they said if police stopped me it was my responsibility!!! How can that be if they are not doing there job right ... But that's another story ...
 
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