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Morning readings

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Tonybeedsy1

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Hi there, I've been diabetic for 8 months and now and after a lot of hard work am in remission. I do intermittent fasting and think this really helps. My question is my morning readings sometimes go up by 2 points even though I'm doing everything right. It normalises again after a few days. Is this my liver ridding itself of its supplies. I can't seem to find an answer anywhere.
Thanks, hope you can help
 
Are they often enough and high enough for long enough, to impact on your health?
 
Are they often enough and high enough for long enough, to impact on your health?
Hi there. No I'm usually around 7 first thing but just lately jumped up to 9s. I'm not overly concerned as it goes back down in a few days. I'm doing fasting and have upped it a couple more hours and cut my food down a bit to get this last stone off. I just can't seem to find an answer anywhere. I had a fatty liver when diagnosed and I'm hoping it's releasing the fat to make the readings go up but no one seems to have the answer.

Thanks
 
Hello @Tonybeesdsy1
Firstly congratulations on achieving remission. It would be interesting to hear what sort of eating/ exercise/other plan you used to achieve this.
Secondly, your higher morning readings may be due to something called dawn Syndrome
this link has more information about this Dawn phenomenon « Diabetes Support Information Exchange (diabetes-support.org.uk)
Hi there, I just went straight onto a low carb diet, 2 meals a day with no snacking. Started walking, the first day I had to get my wife to come and get me after a mile as I was so unfit. I managed 30km this weekend. Took up fasting 4 months ago and that really sorted me out. Feel great now and halved my metformin with a view to coming off it in march. Wanting to learn as much as I can about type 2 so I can help others. This is one question I can't find an answer to. I'm trying to find if there's a link between Dawn phenomenon and your liver healing itself through fasting.
 
Well done on your great progress @Tonybeedsy1

As I understand it, Dawn Phenomenon is part of the natural circadian rhythms of the body, and everyone gets it to a greater or lesser extent whether they live with diabetes or not. Many say it dates from our distant past and is something to do with the body firing up the burners so you can leave your cave and snaffle a woolly mammoth for breakfast even if you’ve got no nuts and berries in the larder.

Like you, I also find that mine ebbs and flows and can react to (or be suppressed by) what happened the day before, or change with the seasons (or just on a whim!). I can see the effect of extra glucose that is released in my sensor traces, and I have periods where I need to allow extra insulin to counter it, and then other periods where I don’t so much.

Some find that a small low carb snack with some fat or protein at bedtime helps keep the liver happy overnight?
 
@Tonybeedsy1 take a look at the Group 7-day waking average thread on here.
We all post our waking BG readings.
good bad or ugly it doesn’t matter but a good way to check in and find out a myriad of information!
Me and my liver are not friends!!!!
 
Hi there, I'm mystified how this works. My theory is its my liver slowly sorting itself out and ridding the fats out of it. I'm probably wrong but it's the only explanation I can come up with. The only changes I've made is I've upped my intermittent fasting from 16-8 to 18 - 6and had my last food at 4pm instead of 6pm. I had a snack of some cheese and peanut butter at 8pm last night and my readings dropped a whole point this morning. My readings are absolutely nothing to worry about and I'm in a good place at the moment. It's just very hard to get an answer to some questions.
 
I have found that eating every 12 hours seems to make glucose levels more stable than a longer period of fasting.
 
I've been really comfortable with 16-8 fasting and I think I'm going back to that as a maximum. There seems to be a lot of pressure to go as high as possible in the fasting hours
 
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