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Might have to go on to syringes due to lack of apidra pens

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Natalie123

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Just wondered if anyone is using syringes? I might have to use them for a while due to the shortage of apidra pens and cartridges. This is worrying me because I hate needles and it took me ages to get used to my pens. I am going on to a pump in Jan but the pens are out of stock until Jan so I have to use something else in between. There is NO WAY I am switching to novo rapid as suggested by nurses because I was move from this because I felt so ill on it. Any words of wisdom would be much appreciated x
 
Do you ever see the doctor or consultant? Perhaps he can give you something else that comes in a pen that wont make you feel ill? Sorry I can't be of more help, but I hope it works out well and in your favour.
 
Goodness, how frustrating! I wouldn't know what to do with a syringe I'm afraid as I've never used them, but I know plenty here have so hopefully they can reassure you. Are there any other insulins your could try instead, like humalog, that won't cause you problems? Might your clinic have some spare pens? Although I imagine you'd need quite a few to tide you over until January. Hope you can find a solution soon 🙂
 
Been a while since I used them (my basal was syringe-delivered for the first 10-odd years).

I'd imagine the same needle lengths are available. Have you used them before? Might be worth having a meet-up with your DSN to go over technique for drawing up. (draw-up air/inject into vial/draw out insulin/remove bubbles if any...)

Really easy, but might help out your mind at rest.

M
 
Good luck Natalie!

One of the guys on my BERTIE course is on this insulin/pen and they've basically told him to change! so I don't have any advice to offer I'm afraid, just hope you can sort something out.
 
How annoying!!

I don't know what to suggest regarding the needles on a syringe. Maybe you could try Humalog like Alan suggested.
 
Problem with swapping to Novorapid or humalog both these have different profiles to apidra so would control/action would have to be reworked..

Using a syringe to inject isn't much difference than using an insulin pen, different procedure to draw up, and yes it does look more like the a nurse medical piece of kit that screams medical quailifcations at you..

But you get the bog standard old fashioned disposable syring with needle attached, and can have the syringe body and needle separate on the latter they do a auto-cover needle which is very much like the ones for the pen, you don't see the needle part of it..

If you have to go this route now, what I would do is start it off while you still got some cartridges for your pens, by doing it this way you can alterinate between syringe and pen to eek out the pen cartridges longer and perhaps your chemist might be able to secure you a sources from elsewhere in the mean time..

It may be worth while phoning your consultant, explaining the situation to him with a reminder that Novorapid or Humalog isn't an feesible alterniive, for two reason firstly Novorapid made you ill, but with both insulin's there profiles are different to that of Apidra so this would leave you in the position of having to reworking your conrtol etc... With this in mind and that you are due to start on a insulin pump in Jan, which is only a couple of months away would it be possible to bring your start date forward to avoid the hassels and problems involved..
 
I would say stick to Apidra. It'll take you far longer to get used to a different insulin than it would to get used to syringes.

They do require a slightly different technique, but aren't as bad as you fear. Used them for a lot of years like many and would be happy enough to go back to them if needed.

DSN should be able to take you through the necessaries and hopefully allay your fears somewhat. I'm the biggest coward going but you gotta do what you gotta do.🙂

Rob
 
Hi, Thanks all. Have had a long chat with my nurse and doctor. There are options ... They might be able to get me a small number of pens for a few extra weeks, I might be able to start on the pump slightly earlier and the syringes are not as bad as I was imagining, the lovely pharmacist showed me one - it is ok-ish. So basically I don't have to swap to a different insulin ... Panic over 🙂
 
Hi Natalie I'm glad to hear that there are different things you can do
 
Hi, Thanks all. Have had a long chat with my nurse and doctor. There are options ... They might be able to get me a small number of pens for a few extra weeks, I might be able to start on the pump slightly earlier and the syringes are not as bad as I was imagining, the lovely pharmacist showed me one - it is ok-ish. So basically I don't have to swap to a different insulin ... Panic over 🙂

I'm glad to hear that the Panic's over 🙂
 
I have been told I might need to get an Autopen which is the Solostar version of a Novopen but from googling them I don't like the look of them as they only deliver even numbered doses so I have seen. But between me and you lot I don't like the disposable pens that much either.

Marc
 
I have been told I might need to get an Autopen which is the Solostar version of a Novopen but from googling them I don't like the look of them as they only deliver even numbered doses so I have seen. But between me and you lot I don't like the disposable pens that much either.

Marc

As far as I know Autopens are used for lantus or levemir (there are two different kinds of Autopen, both available in 1 or 2 unit doses).
 
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