Kidney disease

[AlanJardine]

Does anyone know what creatin levels should be?

I was told mine was high at 14.2, but didn't think to ask what units it was measured in.

Googling creatine level comes up with lots of things that don't really make sense. For a start, most pages actually refer to creatinine. Is this the same thing?

Secondly, if it's in mmol/l, then most sites seem to indicate a level less than 2.0 is normal, depending on age/sex/weight etc. One site I've seen said that levels of 10.0 or over should mean dialysis.

I'm seeing the hospital consultant next week (Diabetes specialist, nothing to do with the kidneys yet) where I shall ask for more details, but just wondering if anyone here knew more in the meantime.

 

[Northerner]

Hi Alan, from looking at my Open University diabetes course book, it says that

'creatinine is a substance produced in the blood as a result of muscular activity in the body. The blood creatininie level is normally lower than 130 mmol/l because the kidneys constantly clear creatinine from the blood as fast as it is produced. If the creatinine level is rising, it suggests that the kidneys are working less efficiently. It is usually a combination of urine and blood test results, rather than just one test, that enables a diagnosis of nephropathy to be made.'

So, this is mmol/l and ovbiously different units to the ones you were given. But hope it is of some help!🙂

p.s. also found this:

•Creatinine must be in the units micromoles per litre. The value will be roughly 60-120 for someone with good kidney function, and 350-600 for someone approaching dialysis. In some parts of the world, such as the USA, the units used are different – milligrammes per decilitre. This gives values of about 0.05 – 1.0 for normal kidney function, and 3.0 – 5.0 for someone approaching dialysis.

from:

http://www.kidney.org.uk/Medical-Info/kidney-basics/calc-kidney-fn.html

 

[sasha1]

Hi Alan ..

Sorry I cant help on this one ... I only have a little knowledge on Microalbuminuria (protein) and Protienuria in the kidneys ..

Heidi
xx🙂

 

[Northerner]

I've also noticed that the measurements I gave are in micromoles/l, not millimoles/l - perhaps micromoles when divided by 10 give miilimoles? so your 14.2 would be equivalent to 142 ?

 

[katie]

Hi Alan,

My results say that the normal Creatinine range in mmol/l is 45-110 (mine was 62)
and the Albumin/Creatinine Ration mg/mmol normal range is <=3.5 (mine was 0.1)

but to be honest I have no idea what it all means!

 

[DiabetesPartner]

Does anyone know what creatin levels should be?

I was told mine was high at 14.2, but didn't think to ask what units it was measured in.

It's really hard to say without units, but I will keep thinking and playing with numbers.

But Creatinine is just a derivative of Creatine.
Body makes creatine to store energy.
Creatine + phosphate molecules = creatine phosphate

Creatine phosphate is used as energy (the phosphate moelcule can be donated to ADP to make ATP)
When this happens during muscle metabolism, creatinine is a chemical waste product and is transported through the bloodstream to the kidneys where most if it is filtered out and disposed of in the urine.


I believe blood and urine clearance calculations are done using creatinine

I've also noticed that the measurements I gave are in micromoles/l, not millimoles/l - perhaps micromoles when divided by 10 give miilimoles? so your 14.2 would be equivalent to 142 ?

if it was 14.2 millimoles/l that would be 14200 micromoles/l

 

[Northerner]

...if it was 14.2 millimoles/l that would be 14200 micromoles/l

That's scuppered that theory then!😱

 

[C*5_Dodger]

I've also noticed that the measurements I gave are in micromoles/l, not millimoles/l - perhaps micromoles when divided by 10 give miilimoles? so your 14.2 would be equivalent to 142 ?

Dear Northerner,

A micromole is 1 millionth of a mole. A millimole is one thousandth of a mole, so there are a 1000 micromoles (mcmol) in a millimole (mmol)

Regards Dodger

 

[DiabetesPartner]

lol Indeed!

Also don't panic Alan, I'm sure your levels aren't 14200 micromoles/l