Keto glycemic, metabolic benefits seem to be due just to weight loss

Eddy Edson

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Relationship to Diabetes
Type 2
New little RCT: https://drc.bmj.com/content/12/5/e004199


Abstract

Introduction Low carbohydrate ketogenic diets have received renewed interest for the treatment of obesity and type 2 diabetes. These diets promote weight loss, improve glycemic control, and reduce insulin resistance. However, whether the improvements in glycemic control and insulin sensitivity are secondary to the weight loss or result from a direct effect of hyperketonemia is controversial.

Research design and methods 29 overweight obese subjects were randomized to one of three dietary interventions for 10 days: (1) Weight-maintaining standard diet; (2) Weight-maintaining ketogenic diet; (3) Weight-maintaining ketogenic diet plus supplementation with the ketone ester of beta-hydroxybutyrate (β-OH-B), 8 g every 8 hours. At baseline, all subjects had oral glucose tolerance test, 2-step euglycemic insulin clamp (20 mU/m2.min and 60 mU/m2.min) with titrated glucose and indirect calorimetry.

Results Body weight, fat content, and per cent body fat (DEXA) remained constant over the 10-day dietary intervention period in all three groups. Plasma β-OH-B concentration increased twofold, while carbohydrate oxidation decreased, and lipid oxidation increased demonstrating the expected shifts in substrate metabolism with institution of the ketogenic diet. Glucose tolerance either decreased slightly or remained unchanged in the two ketogenic diet groups. Whole body (muscle), liver, and adipose tissue sensitivity to insulin remained unchanged in all 3 groups, as did the plasma lipid profile and blood pressure.

Conclusion In the absence of weight loss, a low carbohydrate ketogenic diet has no beneficial effect on glucose tolerance, insulin sensitivity, or other metabolic parameters.

In summary, our study demonstrates for the first time that a 10-day ketogenic diet, with or without exogenous ketone supplementation, while maintaining constant body weight does not improve glucose tolerance, insulin sensitivity, plasma lipid profile, or blood
pressure in obese patients with T2D.


The experimental design here had patients eating to maintain their body weight. Previous studies have shown metabolic improvements with keto diets but also weight loss, which itself will cause these same improvements. So by keeping weight stable this experiment could investigate whether keto has benefits not related to weight loss.

See the Discussion section for discussion about obvious questions about things like study size and 10 day exposure window.


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OGTT studies:

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Keto results in significantly worse fasting glucose tolerance, I think in line with what you'd expect from previous work.
 
Interesting that this is being studied. And as an RCT too.

Glad that they note that 10 days a bit short from a standing start. Don't keto folks often talk about needing an induction phase to get 'fat adapted' or something, which I suppose might take longer. No surprise to me that the supplementation of ketones had no effect - that always felt like a blind alley.

Interesting that lipids and BP remained unchanged on the keto arm, despite a menu with 70-80% fat
 
I'm afraid, for me, 29 people - your abstract doesn't mention if the subjects actually have T2, but that may be the pedant in me - modifying their eating over a 10 day period isn't ground breaking science to prove anything.

(And there were a proportion of that group on a "standard diet", so nothing ground breaking expected there anyway.)
 
Interesting that this is being studied. And as an RCT too.

Glad that they note that 10 days a bit short from a standing start. Don't keto folks often talk about needing an induction phase to get 'fat adapted' or something, which I suppose might take longer. No surprise to me that the supplementation of ketones had no effect - that always felt like a blind alley.

Interesting that lipids and BP remained unchanged on the keto arm, despite a menu with 70-80% fat
Frankly, that'll be another chunk of money only to prove that more work is needed.
 
Interesting that this is being studied. And as an RCT too.

Glad that they note that 10 days a bit short from a standing start. Don't keto folks often talk about needing an induction phase to get 'fat adapted' or something, which I suppose might take longer. No surprise to me that the supplementation of ketones had no effect - that always felt like a blind alley.

Interesting that lipids and BP remained unchanged on the keto arm, despite a menu with 70-80% fat
Wouldn't expect to see significant changes to lipids in the absence of calory excess or big increases in satfats (which I assume would not have been the case). And no reason to expect BP increase without weight gain.
 
I'm afraid, for me, 29 people - your abstract doesn't mention if the subjects actually have T2, but that may be the pedant in me - modifying their eating over a 10 day period isn't ground breaking science to prove anything.

(And there were a proportion of that group on a "standard diet", so nothing ground breaking expected there anyway.)
You could actually read the discussion if you're at all interested in the science.
 
You could actually read the discussion if you're at all interested in the science.
29 subjects for 10 days doesn't pique my interest really.
 
The PI on this, Ralph deFronzo, is an interesting guy.


Dr. DeFronzo led the U.S. development of metformin, the first-line medication for treatment of diabetes and ushered it through FDA approval in 1995. More recently, he discovered a new approach to diabetes treatment and invented the SGLT2 inhibitor class of drugs that target glucose reabsorption in the kidneys. This work led to the development and approval of dapagliflozin, empagliflozin and canagliflozin. His most recent work, along with Dr. Bruno Doiron, has led to a possible cure for type 1 diabetes and is being developed by studies in large animals.

... Dr. DeFronzo is the longest consecutively funded investigator by the NIDDK/NIH – from 1975 to 2028 (53 years).
 
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