well, thanks all for your replies. sometimes i think i am the only one in the universe who disparages the 'eat well' plate and wants to bop the professionals. The Gp phoned me when i was diagnosed to say that he wasn't giving me a meter cos i wouldn't know what to do with it. well......apart from the predictable response that i could have made....it has been amazing to take control. I used to eat abou 100-150gms carbs but i think as i am getting older i am becoming less tolerant and now i tend to just not eat grains apart from my plate of porridge (weighed dry 30gms) once a week. Not a problem after several tantrums! My partner is amazing and experiments with different ingredients cos textures can be a bit samey sometimes. OOOOh the thought of the crunch of an italian loaf..... Now my friend and I support a lot of people with Type 2. We get called the Type Twosies Floosies. might as well laugh eh otherwise i'd be in glum and that's just not the way i want my life to be. i enjoy it too much. So now when we see that loaf, we chorus "carbicide" in our broadest Glaswegian accents! (sorry, long post, am on a rant obivously haha!!)