joanne - insulin regimes for little boy?

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Williams insulin has been changed 3 times now and still hypos at lunch and sky high at tea time We tried insulin 3 times a day which helped but william became miserable so we would rather not go there again,
We have had mixatard 30
insuman comb 15
humalog mix 25
If anybody can recommend a better substitute it would make us all happy for xmas.
Also has any body ever suffered from hair loss due to diabetes william has two large circular bauld patches at the front of his head and doctor has said alapecia or fungal infection. Many thanks Joanne
 
Oh Joanne I really really feel for you.

At the end of the day I can only tell you facts, I can't tell you what you want to hear. I would love to be able to say that your little boy will be fine on mixed insulins and everything will be hunky dorey but I can't. I'm sorry. :(

I don't know how old William is but again unfortunately that is irrelevant, it would just help me give you some tips thats all, my daughter was 5 weeks old when she had her first injection so we've done, baby, toddler, terrible 2, 3, 4 etc up to 9 1/2 years so understand.

I can tell you that mixed insulins generally do not work. I know probably 300 plus people who are diabetic the majority are children, the only other ones I know are on this forum. I only know out of those children two that mixes work for and we have no idea why. Everyone one has to, at some stage move to MDI (multiple daily injections) or a pump.

To get any semblance of control on injections you need to be able to match the insulin to what is eaten. On mixes you are chasing the insulin and have to give enough food to cover the insulin but because they are mixed you will not get it right at some parts of the day which is what you are finding.

With MDI you do not have any mixed insulins at all. The three insulins you have listed are mixes. You cannot possibly know what is happening overnight on mixes either unless you pretty much test hourly ! My daughter was on Mixtard 30 for a few months and was given a CGMS (continuous glucose monitoring system) and it showed she was hypo every night without fail and I used to get up every night at about 2 am and test and she was going hypo at other times. We had to come off Mixtard 30 immediately. We tried Novomix 30 and all the other combinations of Novomix and eventually Lantus became available so we were put onto MDI and have never looked back.

With MDI you have one long acting insulin morning or night which is Levemir or Lantus Glargine. That is the background insulin which doesn't have massive peaks and troughs, it has some little ones. The other insulin is purely novorapid (or similar) which is quick acting. You have to count the carbs eaten and then using a ratio worked out for you, you give the right amount of novorapid.

If your child is under 12 you can skip the MDI part. If he is that averse to injections (and I don't blame him one little bit) according to the NICE guidelines he can go straight onto an insulin pump which is an even better way to control blood sugar levels and you pretty much only have one injection every 2 or 3 days. The level of parent input is more with a pump but I haven't come across any parent yet who would not move the earth if they could for their child.

I'm sorry I couldn't give you the answers you perhaps wanted but I hope I have gently explained the better options for you. If you have any questions at all about anything ask and someone will be able to answer.

In the meantime take a look at www.childrenwithdiabetesuk.org it is a website written by parents for parents like yourself. If you wish you can join the email group on the home page and you will then meet the other parents and children I was referring to above. A few are here but most are on that email group. You can ask the same question that you have here and see what answers come up for you.

Take care
 
Hya Joanne

My 8 year old son was diagnosed with type 1 in August this year. He has also been put on the 2 injections a day. Mixtard 30 we started with and now we are using humalog mix 25 and the same thing that is happening with your little boy is happening to my son, lows before lunch and highs before tea. It doenst matter what I try I can never stop this pattern. Its been a rollercoaster to say the least and its still happening. I'm even starting to dream about diabetes now. Adrienne is completly right and she has been a great help to me, I really appreciate her help.

gem x
 
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