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J having a hideous "honeymoon"!

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Kei - just in case you stll find his numbers are all over the place don't beat yourself up over it (please don't blame yourself) I really hope of course it works but if its still chaotic (like it is with JP) don't carry any guilt. But like i say we are all rooting for you and him on this 🙂
 
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Why did he have to sit still and not run around? I know you're rght but I don't know what effect it has? Yes and drinking lots is a challenge too - JP has started to refuse water and so i'm annoyed about that!
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Hi Rachel, running around when levels are already that high (19) will probably cause them to go higher, so have to stay still until levels come down :(
 
thanks northener

maybe thats dentified the problem with my JP - i thought if levels were high they had to activate the insulin by running around so his levels are often in the 20's! maybe I've been making his sugar levels worse. oh dear.:(
 
Yes, Northener is right. It can send their levels up, and if they already have ketones in their bloodstream, running around can increase the ketones too. :( I have a little card for J's teachers in his testing kit. It basically says ...

Below 4
*J will need orange juice or 2 - 3 glucose tablets (both in his emergency box in class 1)
Test 10 - 15 mins later. If numbers are up give a starchy food (necessary).
If still low, repeat from *
If it is lunchtime, starchy = sandwich. At any other time a Digestive biscuit from his emergency box.

4 - 7
Blood sugars fine. Take no action.

8 - 12
Make sure J is active and drinking enough water.

12 +
Sit J down with a glass of water. Phone Mum if J feels ill or strange.
Otherwise just re-test after 30 minutes to check it?s going down.

18+
Sit J down with a glass of water and phone Mum, Dad or diabetes nurse straight away.


That's pretty much what we do at home too. Anything below 12 he moves about a bit and drinks lots. If it's over 12 I make him sit down with some water until it goes down a bit.

No, F isn't on MDI yet. She's still on Mixtard twice daily. It WAS working quite well for her, but her numbers are a bit erratic at the moment. If we can't get them levelled out again by her next appointment, she'll probably go onto MDI too.
 
Kei

thats a brilliant rundown - i'm wondering why I haven't got that sort of thing in my head??!! thank so much for taking time to type it out. I'll follow it up for the right kiind of one for JP.

have good day,
rach
 
thats a brilliant rundown - i'm wondering why I haven't got that sort of thing in my head??!! thank so much for taking time to type it out. I'll follow it up for the right kiind of one for JP.

have good day,
rach

Here's the document I made for my two at school. http://www.mediafire.com/?jzenmmmdxmg

I print it out, cut out the two rectangles, put them back-to-back and laminate them. That stays with each child's monitor at school so that whoever helps them knows what to do. The staff find it a very useful reminder. If you want I can send you a MS Word copy, so you could just alter the bits you want.
 
hya kei

hows j doing on MDI? are the school helping out ok? At least you already know how to carb count. Havent asked how F's doing with all the issues you are having with J.

gem xx
 
It has only been one day so it's difficult to tell, and J only ate half his lunch, then wondered why he was hypo by 4:30! I explained again why he needs to eat the full 60 carbs if we've injected for it. 🙄 I'm just glad he only dropped to 2.7! His big sister decided not to eat her apple at lunch too, but actually went high - probably because she's coming down with a cold. I'm going to have to remind the teachers tomorrow to have a word with their dinner ladies to make sure my kids eat ALL their lunch before they're allowed out to play. Normally they always do. I'm not sure what got into them today!

The injection at lunchtime went well. DH and I both went in. J's teacher watched while we did the injection, and said that her dad (who has type 2) uses a similar pen for his insulin too. She was very positive and keen to get the DSN in on Monday to train everyone.

The good news is that both kids were within good levels by suppertime (F was 6.2 and J was 5.2). That was only achieved by giving F a correction dose of Novorapid at dinnertime, but hey, good levels are good levels! :D

I think the MDI may work well for J when we're into the swing of it and have worked out the correct ratios for him.

F is glad she's not getting the 4 injections a day, but was a bit miffed that J was getting all the attention yesterday! She tends to get bruises and bumpy injection sites more easily than J, so I can see MDI is going to be harder on her. :(
 
Hya Kei

God that must get confusing with whos on what dose etc, it would confuse the hell out of me. I think as F gets older she will prob want more fredom with things and mybe choose herself to go on MDI you never know. I just told J he can get more of what he wants ashe hates me saying snack time etc and he doesnt always want anything. But if F's levels are wokring on mixes then there no need to change. We went to the clinic 2 weeks ago and the doctor agreed that Js bloods were very variable and his hba1c was 9.0 he was 9.6 then 8.9 and now 9.0 so nothing has improved for us so thats why we are changing. Good luck with it all you must be knackered.. x
 
Kei - Katie has recently moved to MDI. We inject after she has eaten so that she doesn't have to eat everything on her plate. It seems to be working so far. It certainly means that we no longer have to battle over her eating all of her meal. Life is a lot easier!
 
Kei - Katie has recently moved to MDI. We inject after she has eaten so that she doesn't have to eat everything on her plate. It seems to be working so far. It certainly means that we no longer have to battle over her eating all of her meal. Life is a lot easier!

That's what we do at dinnertime, but at school they need to do the injection before he eats, so he needs to eat the whole meal. The dinnerladies are now aware of this and checked him on Friday. 🙂

Mind you - I still insist that he eats everything on his plate at dinnertime. It would be hardly fair to have one rule for him and another for F!

Great levels yesterday and NO HYPO this morning! :D
 
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