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It's not my fault...hmm

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Sharron1

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I cannot wait for Easter to be over and the end of the chocolate fest. We went out today and all my good intentions flew out of the window. I ate a ton of chocolate and watermelon (btw a great combination). I wanted to see the damage so tested. This returned an unsurprising 10.3. I wondered how long it would take to drop. So 30 mins later l tested again and it dropped to 7.5. I was lucky. Hey ho. Need more self control. Bye bye Easter
 
At the two hour mark as per usual. Why?
 
If you go for a long walk immediately after eating, you will burn off most of the extra glucose 😉 Also try taking Apple Cider Vinegar a few mins before eating - although that doesn't sound too appetising with chocolate, but works a treat with savoury meals. To maximise the effect, take ACV before the meal and then go for a walk - you can mitigate the blood sugar spikes this way! I didn't believe this at first, so tested the method, and sure enough, it worked!
 
Can one dilute the apple cider vinegar? I find it impossible to swallow neat!

I wonder how it works?
 
If you go for a long walk immediately after eating, you will burn off most of the extra glucose
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My problem is that I like to go for a long walk FIRST - then come home and 'reward' myself with something nice and tasty and carby....

Sigh.
 
If you go for a long walk immediately afterI lay oft eating, you will burn off most of the extra glucose 😉 Also try taking Apple Cider Vinegar a few mins before eating - although that doesn't sound too appetising with chocolate, but works a treat with savoury meals. To maximise the effect, take ACV before the meal and then go for a walk - you can mitigate the blood sugar spikes this way! I didn't believe this at first, so tested the method, and sure enough, it worked!
Ta. Probably best if I lay off the chocolate until next Easter and less watermelon in general.Sigh
 
Looking at those hba1c numbers, you're doing something right, so it wasn't luck, it was all the work you had put in.

With meter accuracy a reading of 10 can actually be a BG between 8 and 12.5 in reality, and you were well into a good range just 30 minutes later.

I'm not saying do it every day, but don't beat yourself up for a treat sometimes.
 
Thank you .
 
I cannot wait for Easter to be over and the end of the chocolate fest. We went out today and all my good intentions flew out of the window. I ate a ton of chocolate and watermelon (btw a great combination). I wanted to see the damage so tested. This returned an unsurprising 10.3. I wondered how long it would take to drop. So 30 mins later l tested again and it dropped to 7.5. I was lucky. Hey ho. Need more self control. Bye bye Easter
Haha I know exactly what you mean! I think Easter is probably worse than Christmas for all the temptations… simnel cake, chocolate nests, hot cross buns- and that’s not even mentioning the eggs themselves! Those readings are interesting, and the drop to 7.5 after 30 minutes was great! Also, your HbA1c levels are brilliant- are you managing that just with diet and without medication?
 
Thank you. I agree with you I find Easter fare far more seductive than Xmas fare.
I stick to a low carb diet about 100-130 carbs a day (excluding Easter!!l). Not too difficult because I wasn't ever really a carb lover. I also found the drop to 7.5 after 30 mins strange and wondered if the first test was rogue.

Since my diagnosis ( which is questionable, a long story that I have shared many times before, but no way of going back in time.,A nurse at the surgery thinks it may have been a mistake. Sigh.) I have been taking metformin 2 x am and pm. Each time at review I ask if it is worth reducing the tabs to see what happens But the nurse is loathe to do that 'If it ain't broke...'i suspect she doesn't want hassle with the GP. So I continue because taking the Metformin doesn't put me out. It is all rather odd. My feeling is the Metformin does very little for me and my diet and busy life running around do the heavy lifting.
 
Thank you. I agree with you I find Easter fare far more seductive than Xmas fare.
I stick to a low carb diet about 100-130 carbs a day (excluding Easter!!l). Not too difficult because I wasn't ever really a carb lover. I also found the drop to 7.5 after 30 mins strange and wondered if the first test was rogue.

Since my diagnosis ( which is questionable, a long story that I have shared many times before, but no way of going back in time.,A nurse at the surgery thinks it may have been a mistake. Sigh.) I have been taking metformin 2 x am and pm. Each time at review I ask if it is worth reducing the tabs to see what happens But the nurse is loathe to do that 'If it ain't broke...'i suspect she doesn't want hassle with the GP. So I continue because taking the Metformin doesn't put me out. It is all rather odd. My feeling is the Metformin does very little for me and my diet and busy life running around do the heavy lifting.
It seems your A1C's from 2019 onwards indicate you don't have diabetes. I'm still not sure how exactly diabetes type 2 is any different from high blood pressure. If one gets high blood pressure it can come down fast generally by changing diet, going for a long long long run, fasting, and resting. Not sure how type 2 is really any different as both high blood pressure and high blood sugar can lead to complications, and both seem to be metabolic disorders. Type 1 on the other seems more legit, as an organ is not functional.
 
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It is a mystery with no chance of any real resolution.So I decided to continue with low carb/ metfotmin etc as the other benefits by far outweigh everything else. Only once in a whole I get a little ranty about it.
 
Thank you. I agree with you I find Easter fare far more seductive than Xmas fare.
I stick to a low carb diet about 100-130 carbs a day (excluding Easter!!l). Not too difficult because I wasn't ever really a carb lover.
Totally agree! I’ve done the same regarding reducing carbs with good weight loss results. I’ve always thought of carbs as the ‘add on’ rather than the real thing, so just as happy with salads instead of potatoes/chips/rice etc.

Since my diagnosis ( which is questionable, a long story that I have shared many times before, but no way of going back in time.,A nurse at the surgery thinks it may have been a mistake. Sigh.) I have been taking metformin 2 x am and pm. Each time at review I ask if it is worth reducing the tabs to see what happens But the nurse is loathe to do that 'If it ain't broke...'i suspect she doesn't want hassle with the GP. So I continue because taking the Metformin doesn't put me out. It is all rather odd. My feeling is the Metformin does very little for me and my diet and busy life running around do the heavy lifting.
Amazing that you’re still taking that many meds despite your consistent test results. Presumably you don’t have any issues with the metformin? That’s one thing that’s worries me… if the GP suggests adding it. Maybe I shouldn’t worry! I’ve no concerns taking tabs for the diabetes, and will be happy to continue even if my blood results get down into the 30s. I suppose I like the ‘security’ of having the other checks done with the annual reviews.
 
Absolutely no issues with the Met. I take the slow release tabs., a habit now like brushing my teeth!
 
Can one dilute the apple cider vinegar? I find it impossible to swallow neat!

I wonder how it works?

Absolutely - in fact, you must dilute it, otherwise it's bad for your teeth! I usually put a couple of tablespoonfuls of ACV in a small amount of apple juice and top it up with water in about 1:5 juice to water ratio. It makes a very tasty and refreshing drink and the ACV mitigates the small amount of sugar in the apple juice as well. It tastes a lot like lemon that way. You can also put it in herbal teas as well - just like adding lemon!

Any vinegar will work - ACV is just more palatable than others. It's the acetic acid that makes them work. I've looked it up on line - this is how it works: "The acetic acid in vinegar slows down the rate at which the stomach empties the food you've eaten into the small intestine, which in turn slows the breakdown of carbohydrates and gives the body more time to remove glucose from the blood. This ultimately reduces the spike in blood sugar you'd typically see after eating."

I was sceptical too, until I saw the readings myself! It does curb your glucose spike, especially if combined with exercise. There are a few other hacks like this detailed in the book The Glucose Revolution. I highly recommend.
 
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If you go for a long walk immediately after eating, you will burn off most of the extra glucose
**

My problem is that I like to go for a long walk FIRST - then come home and 'reward' myself with something nice and tasty and carby....

Sigh.

That's way worse for your blood sugar! The worst thing you can do is exercise on an empty stomach, then eat carbs and then sit around! Just swapping the order will make a huge difference, believe me! The right order is ACV followed by food (in moderation) and then exercise. And don't overdo the exercise - just a brisk walk for 30-40 mins is all you need!

Obviously, the quantity and quality of the food you eat will also make a difference - and also in what order you eat the carbs vs proteins/fats/fibre. Try to eat fibre first (ie. veggies and salads) followed by protein and fats and eat carbs last. You will have a lot smaller spike that way. All explained in The Glucose Revolution! You can literally have your cake and eat it too - just don't eat carbs by themselves on an empty stomach!

But don't take my word for it - experiment!
 
Absolutely no issues with the Met. I take the slow release tabs., a habit now like brushing my teeth!
That’s good to hear! In fact I might mention it to the surgery as I’ve read that metformin is quite beneficial in several ways.
 
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Thank you. I agree with you I find Easter fare far more seductive than Xmas fare.
I stick to a low carb diet about 100-130 carbs a day (excluding Easter!!l). Not too difficult because I wasn't ever really a carb lover. I also found the drop to 7.5 after 30 mins strange and wondered if the first test was rogue.
The few times I've been 'naughty' and had a cake or something high in carbs, I've seen sudden drops from high sevens down to low 5s in a short time. (I did an hour test, then 90 minute test.)

Having said that, I just did a post-meal test and got a 7.5, which was a shock. Washed hands. Retested with a different meter and got a 6.3 (Then retested with the original and got the same.) The dish I made had orange in it, and I had some some juice on my hands.
 
The worst thing you can do is exercise on an empty stomach, then eat carbs and then sit around! Just swapping the order will make a huge difference, believe me!
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Oh I believe you all right. The trouble is I want to get the horrible stuff out of the way (ie exercise) and then indulge in the enjoyable stuff (eating sweet carbs). The walk 'earns' me the indulgence of the slice of cake. Sigh.

If I ate the sweet carbs first knowing I then had to do penance with a long brisk walk, I probably wouldn't bother with the sweet carbs at all, as the ordeal to come would totally spoil it for me!!!!!!

(It's the same mentality that kicks off when I read things like 'You should have your main meal at lunchtime, and then not eat after 6 pm till breakfast the following day'. That is absolutely anathema for gluttons like me, who want to 'look forward' all day to my 'treat' of my main meal in the evening - followed by my 'naughty treat' just before I go to bed. Now, that's a GOOD day I feel! (Sigh). 🙂
 
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