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Hi all,

I was wondering if the reading on the meter is ok 8.9 this was taken early morning before any breakfasts. I hope everyone else is doing ok .

Miker🙂🙂🙂
 
Hi all,

I was wondering if the reading on the meter is ok 8.9 this was taken early morning before any breakfasts. I hope everyone else is doing ok .

Miker🙂🙂🙂


I would like to know the same Miker!.....My reading in the morning is always around 8.2-9. The highest reading I have got so far home testing is 12.4 in the evening. I am NOT taking any med's at this time.

Metformin badly upset my stomach and don't want to take med's that will increase my chances of gaining more weight :(
 
hi Ellowyne,

I am on Metformin my somach is sore at times but I m on other meds too thease are for my Osterarithitis., I find it hard to know what should be a normal reading all I know is when I am feeling awful thats weak , sweaty and very dizzy and the feeling of cold water running down my arms and legs , I check my blood and bingo it says 4.0 it goes down fast unless I take a sweet

also when cutting the grass my sugar drops down , the other day I just made it to the back door and my wife hazel, gave me a drink of lucozade , I lay down and when I got up right as rain again.

Miker🙂🙂🙂
 
That sounds scary Miker!

I have only once felt like I was Hypo and that was when I was in hospital this week. I was taken into hospital on Sunday with terrible Gall Bladder pain, my blood sugar reading went upto 25!! They put me on an insolin drip and over tha course of 3 days my blood sugar readings went down. They were going to operate to remove my gall bladder but because of my weight I was afraid to hav it done 😱 Mind you the Surgeon did'nt exactly fill me with confidence and his mannerism towards me was not too nice, I was in tears.

They have let me home now to try and lose some more weight, I have already lost 5 stone! Anyway, when they took me off of the drip then then tried me on a tablet called 'Gliclazide' My blood sugar dropped too quickly and I felt faint, sweaty and cold!

This Gliclazide is the med's they want me to stay on but I know this med can cause weight gain, I just can't afford to put ANY weight on, so it's no med's for me until I have lost some weight and had my gall bladder OUT!
 
hi miker and ellowynn , well im on 1 metformin a day at the moment and they do also make me tummy quite queasy as well , the reading of 8.9 is usually around about my morning reading as well and evening time can be anything up to 16 at the minute , i test for ketones regular as well just to safeguard myself .
 
I've just taken a reading just under 2 hours AFTER my lunch....it was 13.9. Is this kind of Ok considering I am not on any medication as yet?

How do you test for ketones Steff?....Is that the urine test?

Sorry for all the questions....why are the ketones important to know?
 
i aint to sure myself hun so i dont wanna say yes or no to you and confuse you maybe some one who is abit more savvy then me can answer i aint been diabetic yet myself 3 mnth im still learning lol ,As for ketones yes i have a tub full of ketostix i got from boots for a fivva i test only if im over 15 at the moment
why to test for ketones?
Your body cells use sugar for energy. Insulin must be present in your body cells to use sugar for energy. When there is lack or not enough insulin in the body cells it may not obtain energy needed to perform its functions. If the body cannot get energy from sugar, fat is used instead. When fat is broken down, ketones are made. Ketones are strong acids and are harmful to the body. Ketones in the urine may be a sign that diabetic ketoacidosis is developed.
 
as I have been diabetic now for a year, I am still none the wiser. the fellow next door to me has been diabetic for over 8 years now . sorry to her Ellowyne that you were in hospital and the staff ( rather doc was not nice) thats all they ever say ( now why dont you lose some weight, easier said than done) I have the avia nano meter , and just lately I got the smartpix device for it , so that it can show graphs on my compuer to show gp.

I have a book on diabetes that say at night when you are asleep you might have a hypo but not to worry as your body stores insulin for this , you may wake up with a sore head. I was always waking up with a sore head has anybody else heared this ??

I dont belive books

Miker
 
I aint heard that i get bad heads if i am very busy running around at work alot it happens and also i get blocks of green and yellow in front of my eyes i glug down a pint of water and carry on as usual like , but personally i have read 2 books on diabetes so far and they both impressed me
 
Miker, Ellowyne

Recommended levels for Type 2 from Diabetes UK are:

HbA1c: less than 6.5%
Pre-meals: 4-7mmol/l (and fasting)
2 hours post meal: less than 8.5mmol/l

Your liver may release stored glucose overnight if you go too low whilst you are asleep - this is why some people wake higher than when they go to bed

As Type 2s still produce some insulin, then it is very, very unlikely that we would get ketoacidosis which is a problem for Type 1's (see Bev's recent thread about young Alex's experience) but we can get into short term problems with very high blood sugars without the ketones. The continual high levels increase our risks of longer term complications - I already had some eye changes on diagnosis which frightened me into action

I'm on both metformin and gliclazide and have had some interesting moments in managing the hypoglycaemia associated with the gliclazide. I also experienced the weight gain/weight loss challenges with gliclazide. I now try to keep to between 1200 and 1500 calories a day (about 130g in predominantly low GI carbs) with daily exercise and have been losing about 1lb a week - irritatingly slow progress and have to keep telling myself that 1/2lb off is better than 1/2lb on. I don't think I could be as disciplined as people like Dodger who manage on a low carbohydrate diet so need the medication to assist rather than do it on diet and exercise alone

I would say it took me about 15 months to get to grips with the right diet/exercise regime for me but I'm now getting a few more hypos than I would like so think I might need to review my medication with my doc once I have my next HbA1c which is due shortly and post my next eye review that is due at the beginning of next month
 
Hi all,

I was wondering if the reading on the meter is ok 8.9 this was taken early morning before any breakfasts. I hope everyone else is doing ok .

Miker🙂🙂🙂
Dear Miker, Ellowyne,

I was just about to post, when Vanessa's post popped up. I couldn't have put it better. I would only add that information I have been able to gather from the Web and from reading suggests that the lower fasting and A1c levels you can achieve the better. I regard the figures quoted by Diabetes UK as the ABSOLUTE MAXIMUMS and aim for the figures you see in my signature. As I'm sure you know type 2 is progressive and the best way to slow the progression is to keep your blood sugar readings as low as you can. Clearly, you have to watch out for hypos if you are taking medication (gliclazide) but when on diet alone there is NO possibility of a hypo.

Warmest Regards Dodger
 
Hi Everyone,

Ellowyne - that's absolutely brilliant that you've lost 5 stone already!! Well done. :D You can still lose weight and take the medication - before I was diagnosed as type 1, I was on metformin and then later gliclazide, and lost 3 stone over a period of time. As Venessa says, it's important your blood sugar doesn't remain high because of the risk of long-term complications. I would keep going back to your diabetes specialist nurse if the medication doesn't seem right or is upsetting your stomach. Have a look on the Diabetes UK site for help with loosing weight/diet and excercice.

Vanessa, you should pat yourself on the back for loosing 1lb a week, goodness knows, it's not easy! 🙂

Good luck Miker, Vanessa and Ellowyne. :D
 
Hi all,

I was wondering if the reading on the meter is ok 8.9 this was taken early morning before any breakfasts. I hope everyone else is doing ok .

Miker🙂🙂🙂
Dear Miker, Ellowyne,

Here's a web site that may interest you, it will also help with weight loss so that you can keep up the excellent progress you have already made.

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php

Regards Dodger
 
A good link there dodger thank you
 
🙂
Miker, Ellowyne

Recommended levels for Type 2 from Diabetes UK are:

HbA1c: less than 6.5%
Pre-meals: 4-7mmol/l (and fasting)
2 hours post meal: less than 8.5mmol/l

Your liver may release stored glucose overnight if you go too low whilst you are asleep - this is why some people wake higher than when they go to bed

As Type 2s still produce some insulin, then it is very, very unlikely that we would get ketoacidosis which is a problem for Type 1's (see Bev's recent thread about young Alex's experience) but we can get into short term problems with very high blood sugars without the ketones. The continual high levels increase our risks of longer term complications - I already had some eye changes on diagnosis which frightened me into action

I'm on both metformin and gliclazide and have had some interesting moments in managing the hypoglycaemia associated with the gliclazide. I also experienced the weight gain/weight loss challenges with gliclazide. I now try to keep to between 1200 and 1500 calories a day (about 130g in predominantly low GI carbs) with daily exercise and have been losing about 1lb a week - irritatingly slow progress and have to keep telling myself that 1/2lb off is better than 1/2lb on. I don't think I could be as disciplined as people like Dodger who manage on a low carbohydrate diet so need the medication to assist rather than do it on diet and exercise alone

I would say it took me about 15 months to get to grips with the right diet/exercise regime for me but I'm now getting a few more hypos than I would like so think I might need to review my medication with my doc once I have my next HbA1c which is due shortly and post my next eye review that is due at the beginning of next month

it was very interesting to read, sorry to hear that you are having a lot of hypos , its hard for me to excerise , but I try as much as possible , I did not know that metaform can cause weight gain I take two a day was attending the hospital as I am pre -glaucoma on eye drops ( wich I must admit I miss out if allowed)

Take care everyone

Miker🙂🙂
 
Runner - thank you for the encouraging words, they are much appreciated.

Miker - just to clarify, it is glicalzide and not metformin that is associated with weight problems. However, I do find exercise one of the best ways to help keep my levels ok (especially after an occasional indulgence) so it must be so difficult when you can't manage physical activity too well
 
hi Vanessa,

It is a hazzle but a wee walk now and then is ok , try to do as much as I can .

I saw in another post that 4.9 is ok my gp said thats not good for me as it keeps on going down unless I take a sweet.

my wife ( Hazel) is non diabetic but was beating me , when I checked my blood sugar level hers was 9.8, while mine was 8.6, another time hers was 10.9 I told the gp and they checked her but was given the all clear . the gp sent her to endilolgy ( hard to spell that word sorry) they put it down to low pottisum levels so put her on Sando K, she has epilepsy and Fibromaglia.

Miker🙂🙂
 
Just a thought, where I live there is a GP referral scheme to a gym for exercise - which is free if you get referred on health grounds. I would think this is ideal if you have other health and mobiity problems, because they can tailor the scheme to your needs and ability. Might be wqorth checking out if there's a scheme in your area, and if not, can they start one! Don't know if there's any financial help to get you there tho'.
 
Walking the Way to Health www.whi.org.uk lists guided health walks throughout England.
 
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