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Unless weight or the fact a patient smokes means an operation is unsafe to go ahead then I believe it is wrong, people shouldn't be punished for being overweight or smoking for operations that have no direct link to the actual weight or smoking.....

Who knows, I may have misunderstood..........:confused:
 
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Dear hotchop,

It is wrong on both counts:

Smokers are addicts and need help not punishment.

Overweight/Obese people have been given the wrong advice by health professionals so why should they be punished - it's not their fault

Regards Dodger
 
The gist of it seems to be that surgery will be refused in the first round until the patient has been referred for weigh management and/or help with stopping smoking.

If the weight is not shifting for medical reasons (eg. meds) or they are unable to manage without smoking for, maybe, MH reasons or something else, then I would imagine surgery would be the same option as for anyone else.🙂

I wonder if they will also refuse to treat Friday/Saturday night A&E patients who have been drinking and fighting or speeding motorists who crash the car. It could open up a whole can of worms for them.

Rob
 
I think the whole area of surgery and weight or smoking is quite controversial. My hubby who has osteoartrhits has been an almost ideal weight ever since I've known him (over 35 years). He has been told he can't have a knee replacement because he is too active and there is a limit to the number of replacements that can be done. He would wear new knees out too quickly...
 
C*5_Dodger said:
Dear hotchop,

It is wrong on both counts:

Smokers are addicts and need help not punishment.

Overweight/Obese people have been given the wrong advice by health professionals so why should they be punished - it's not their fault

Regards Dodger
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I think it would be more balanced to say that some smokers need help as do some overweight/obese people.

For the others, I'd say that they need to help themselves first before burdening the NHS.

We all have a responsibility to do our bit and not simply expect others to pick up the pieces.

As to operations, the NHS is not a bottomless pit of money and resources. Doctors then have to prioritise based on clinical need and best outcome. Of course this is constrained by the funding and resources that the NHS has.

Andy (steps down from soap box) HB 🙂
 
Hi All,

I agree with what has already been said, Where would this stand for say drug addicts and alcoholics. It just seems that these areas are forgotten about, and things are focused on the overweight and smokers first.

I also think if people or continuesly admitted to A&E on fri, sat nights, due to alcohol,drugs and fighting, they should pay a fee ...

Hospitals and NHS Trust's dont have a bottomless pit of money, but from my experience as an inpatient, outpatient and vistor, certain bill could be lowered, for example, turn the heating down a notch, it far to hit and an ideal breeding ground for germs. Why in this age of technology are people wandering round with bits of paper. Why do some hospitals prefer to pay high prices for agency nurses, rather than use nurses available to them.

Heidi
xx🙂
 
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