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I can’t taste or smell anything

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Bruce Stephens said:
We're close to the beginning of the flu season. I imagine it's a combination of factors, particularly problems with social care.

But winters aren't great even in normal years: I remember NHS England being praised for its "planning" for the 2019/2020 winter, where the "planning" involved possibly deferring non-urgent care. We just don't have enough hospital beds for our population. (Partly that happened during Labour administrations so it's not all the Conservative's fault.)
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sorry its nearly all the tories fault 12 years of austerity and lies , corruption , fraud , and a vicious assault on the poor aided by the ruling class and their spiv mates in the private care industry , take a look and you can see where most of the fault lies
 
Anxious 63 said:
sorry its nearly all the tories fault 12 years of austerity and lies , corruption , fraud , and a vicious assault on the poor aided by the ruling class and their spiv mates in the private care industry , take a look and you can see where most of the fault lies
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I'm no fan of the Conservatives, but in the specific issue of hospital beds falling that's been happening fairly continuously since the 1980s. (The argument seems plausible to me: with better surgical techniques and things you can discharge patients more quickly than in the past. I just think it went much too far. Especially since many of those discharges depend on good social care outside hospitals.)
 
Bruce Stephens said:
I'm no fan of the Conservatives, but in the specific issue of hospital beds falling that's been happening fairly continuously since the 1980s. (The argument seems plausible to me: with better surgical techniques and things you can discharge patients more quickly than in the past. I just think it went much too far. Especially since many of those discharges depend on good social care outside hospitals.)
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of course this where you answer the questions , its all about divide and conquer the classic tory con trick
 
Anxious 63 said:
of course this where you answer the questions , its all about divide and conquer the classic tory con trick
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Just that specific one. In general the NHS was better off under New Labour with its goal of raising the funding to match the European average. I worry that the current official opposition seems not to have similar ambition, rather depending on (to me) vague "restructuring". (Maybe it's detailed somewhere.)
 
Bruce Stephens said:
Just that specific one. In general the NHS was better off under New Labour with its goal of raising the funding to match the European average. I worry that the current official opposition seems not to have similar ambition, rather depending on (to me) vague "restructuring". (Maybe it's detailed somewhere.)
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yeah i agree there starmer is not radical enough it seems to me he does not want to offend middle england too much and the daily mail , people were frightened by corbyn apparently lol yeah he certainly frightened the establishment , mind you when he said the system is rigged against the masses he was correct 2017 election
 
I had Omicron twice mid August and mid September last year.
If I count the oh so familiar symptoms which made me really ill before the pandemic had even started, I have had covid or something very like it 5 times now.
I had two jabs - the first one made me very ill so I got two face to face appointments with a GP during lockdown, the second one might just as well have been saline - call me suspicious but I think it really was. I didn't imagine the look shared between the two people doing and recording the jabs.
I did have changes to my sense of smell and taste, and for a while could not drink tea as it tasted really strange, but I have recovered most of that now - though not all the time. Sometimes I can smell the coffee and sometimes I can't. At least tea is drinkable now.
 
Bruce Stephens said:
Most people can no longer receive tests in this way. Rather, they can be bought. (And, now, the results can be reported from such commercial tests. Oh, no they can't. I'm sure I saw that that was possible, but either I misremembered or it hasn't happened yet.)
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If already regarded as clinically extremely vulnerable tests can still be ordered through the .gov link provided, at least I can still order them. People only need to complete form to discover if they qualify.
 
Jodee said:
It is documented that the omicron covid virus can by pass immunity and reinfect those that have already had covid previously.

List of symptoms here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-62161604

Order rapid flow tests here https://www.gov.uk/order-coronavirus-rapid-lateral-flow-tests

the current XBB variants are fast spreading - really people should be continuing to take precautions imo but sadly only a few are.

Hope you are feeling better real soon.
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Thank you for that, I have some of those symptoms, but my sore throat and cough seem to only appear at night, and go in the day, One thing I have that isnt on the list is my eyes are red and sore, so not sure it is covid, I look like I havent slept in weeks from my eyes :( Possibly just a cold, I work from home so wont infect anyone so will just hopefully recover away from the world as whatever I have it isnt pleasant and wouldnt want to pass it on to anyone x
 
Drummer said:
I had Omicron twice mid August and mid September last year.
If I count the oh so familiar symptoms which made me really ill before the pandemic had even started, I have had covid or something very like it 5 times now.
I had two jabs - the first one made me very ill so I got two face to face appointments with a GP during lockdown, the second one might just as well have been saline - call me suspicious but I think it really was. I didn't imagine the look shared between the two people doing and recording the jabs.
I did have changes to my sense of smell and taste, and for a while could not drink tea as it tasted really strange, but I have recovered most of that now - though not all the time. Sometimes I can smell the coffee and sometimes I can't. At least tea is drinkable now.
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Yes, I wonder about the pre pandemic bugs too. In January myself,my daughter and her boyfriend came back from Tenerife, the airport was very busy at Gatwick, and I wonder if anyone passed it to us then in Jan 2020, as my daughter a week later was hospitalised with continual sickness,a high temperature that couldnt be lowered and kidney problems that the hospital couldn't fathom what was causing it, they suggested a virus and she luckily recovered, at the same time her boyfriend had a continual hacking cough and I was aching all over with flu like symptoms,. If it was March we would have thought Covid for at least one of us. I do wonder if it was lurking at the airport to welcome us on our return.

Sadly my daughter has lost 2 of her friends to covid, one was only 21 and the other in her 30s, the first one had a viral infection that meant she needed a liver transplant, she went to hospital for the procedure literally as the covid testing was introduced and because she had covid they couldnt carry out the operation and she sadly lost her life, the other lady had kidney failure after catching covid, both healthy young women and all in my daughters uni class training to be teachers (there was only 10 people in her group, and for 2 of them to die of covid seems so awful) I have lost a lot of colleagues to covid too, I work for an ambulance trust :( this was in the early pandemic but so sad to lose so many
 
Jenny65 said:
Thank you for that, I have some of those symptoms, but my sore throat and cough seem to only appear at night, and go in the day, One thing I have that isnt on the list is my eyes are red and sore, so not sure it is covid, I look like I havent slept in weeks from my eyes :( Possibly just a cold, I work from home so wont infect anyone so will just hopefully recover away from the world as whatever I have it isnt pleasant and wouldnt want to pass it on to anyone x
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It may or may not be what is happening with you but when I am ill or upset my blood glucose is higher than usual, in addition I know my own dry eyes is a symptom of diabetes and I am prescribed eye drops.

Hope you are feeling much better.
 
Anxious 63 said:
sorry its nearly all the tories fault 12 years of austerity and lies , corruption , fraud , and a vicious assault on the poor aided by the ruling class and their spiv mates in the private care industry , take a look and you can see where most of the fault lies
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This thread caught my eye, thought it may interest you )

www.mumsnet.com

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The government? Where is the leadership? The reassurance that the problem is being addressed with urgency? Cobra meetings? Horrendous stories coming o...
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@Bruce Stephens
Reporting commercial tests is a bit odd. The link through the government site still says you can't but the Covid 19 app does allow it, but only for positive tests. I guess simply for test & trace purposes as that one has no personal data.

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Bruce Stephens said:
The bigger part of the problem: 3750 people in hospital with flu and 9500 with COVID.
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Is that with or because of Covid?

Unfortunately I didn't stop and record the radio at the time, but over the last couple of days there was a chap on who had made a FOA request for Covid deaths due to Covid and Deaths where the person "passed" the covid in the last x days test. The differentials were staggering in the only trust that had replied to date.

I'm not a Covid naysayer, but I am concerned about the amount of spin we are being fed, which the conspiracists might suggests is being used as a means of controlling behaviours. I thnk it is important to examine what is being said, not what we hear to be said. Sadly, these things are not always the same thing.
 
AndBreathe said:
Is that with or because of Covid?
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Dunno. I presume it's that COVID-19 is the reason for admission, but that is an assumption. Doesn't make that much difference to the basic message: nobody (sane) thinks that getting infected with this thing is good for people, after all.
AndBreathe said:
Unfortunately I didn't stop and record the radio at the time, but over the last couple of days there was a chap on who had made a FOA request for Covid deaths due to Covid and Deaths where the person "passed" the covid in the last x days test. The differentials were staggering in the only trust that had replied to date.
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You can see bother measures of deaths from COVID-19 on these graphs: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

The "within 28 days of a positive test" was always just been a nice quick way of producing a statistic. It happens to pretty much match up with the "on the death certificate" measure earlier on, but less so now (with our immunity we've allowed the virus to spread largely uncontrolled and it's much more likely to die of something while having had an incidental infection, though it's also less likely you'll have tested at all).

(There was also a bit of misinformation suggesting that the number of people who'd died from just COVID-19 was very low, but that was mostly a (deliberate) misunderstanding of what goes on death certificates.)
 
Bruce Stephens said:
Dunno. I presume it's that COVID-19 is the reason for admission, but that is an assumption. Doesn't make that much difference to the basic message: nobody (sane) thinks that getting infected with this thing is good for people, after all.

You can see bother measures of deaths from COVID-19 on these graphs: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

The "within 28 days of a positive test" was always just been a nice quick way of producing a statistic. It happens to pretty much match up with the "on the death certificate" measure earlier on, but less so now (with our immunity we've allowed the virus to spread largely uncontrolled and it's much more likely to die of something while having had an incidental infection, though it's also less likely you'll have tested at all).

(There was also a bit of misinformation suggesting that the number of people who'd died from just COVID-19 was very low, but that was mostly a (deliberate) misunderstanding of what goes on death certificates.)
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Is getting infected with anything good for you at the moment?
 
Bruce Stephens said:
Dunno. I presume it's that COVID-19 is the reason for admission, but that is an assumption. Doesn't make that much difference to the basic message: nobody (sane) thinks that getting infected with this thing is good for people, after all.

You can see bother measures of deaths from COVID-19 on these graphs: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England

The "within 28 days of a positive test" was always just been a nice quick way of producing a statistic. It happens to pretty much match up with the "on the death certificate" measure earlier on, but less so now (with our immunity we've allowed the virus to spread largely uncontrolled and it's much more likely to die of something while having had an incidental infection, though it's also less likely you'll have tested at all).

(There was also a bit of misinformation suggesting that the number of people who'd died from just COVID-19 was very low, but that was mostly a (deliberate) misunderstanding of what goes on death certificates.)
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Assumptions aren't good.

Of course, contracting any infection, virus or ailment isn't good news, but I do think it matters. It really matters. Why not just go for clear, not misleading messaging. Other parts of our society can be heavily fined if their comms are not clear, or are misleading.

Bloke gets run over by a bus, goes into hospital in a real state, is tested positive on admission, but dies 3 days later due to a head injury. Covid death?

Same bloke tests positive for covid on 1st of a month, knocked down by bus, on his way to work on the 27th, and dies shortly after admission to hospital. Covid death?

Speaking to a respiratory consultant a few weeks ago, I asked how things were at the hospital (a regional specialist respiratory unit). She responded that whilst they were still seeing patients with covid, they were tending to have serious comorbidities and that their pressures, at that point, were from people with influenza.
 
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Jenny65 said:
So I have been suffering for a few days with a cold and also constipation. I’ve lost my appetite completely but realised when I ate my porridge this morning it tasted of nothing at all. My perfume has no smell and neither does my vanilla scented candle. I have a really awful cough that keeps me awake and feel exhausted. Surely it can’t be another bout of Covid? I haven’t got any tests and by the time I feel well enough to pop to the shop I will probably be negative anyway. Is it possible to get Covid when you only had it 3 months ago and have had 4 vaccines ? Also I feel so rubbish if this is Covid then thank god I have been vaccinated

Checked my food intake for yesterday and it was only 409 calories for the whole day. I am basically sleeping or coughing
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I completely lost sense of smell and taste when I had covid the first time( couldn't even smell vinegar) going on that alone I think it could be covid ☹
 
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