thank northener, it's been awhile since I last posted on here but have really struggled with my bloods but since being on these two new pens I seem to have emerged out of a foggy cloud and I can seen light at the end of the tonnel, my hb1Ac had risen to 12 so I finally got refered to a consultant and now I feel great and my bg's are starting to come down and I have lost 12 kgs in 3 months to which i'm very happy about, thanks everyone for your support xxxx