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diagnosed about 10 weeks ago with type 2 diabetes. I follow SW eating plan and have lost 17 lbs I’m trying to cut carbs down but find it difficult as I eat a lot of fruit as well as veg. I’m not taking any medication and told to manage with diet I was in hospital last week and had sugar test and the nurse said I’ve did a good job of bringing sugar down. I’m seriously thinking of doing the fast 800 diet and have the books my Hba1c was 60 on 9 th June. Last week I had readings of 7.1 had sugary drink 4 hours before first test and 5 in hospital both fasting I’m sure you will understand the numbers better than me. I keep editing this. If I lose weight will my diabetes get better? My doc said I’ve to aim for remission. He’s not testing again till December. I tried convincing him I didn’t have diabetes but it didn’t work
Congratulations on the weight loss and it's great to hear that your nurse is happy with your progress.
It sounds like you're on a good path towards diabetes remission. Did you speak with your doctor/nurse about the low-calorie diet?
Here's a good page on diabetes remission on our website. I hope by December you'll get good news. In the meantime feel free to ask any questions you have on the forum, people here are always willing to help. 🙂
You sound to have done brilliantly so far and certainly weight loss will help. The important thing is to be careful of the portion size of high carb foods of which some fruits are one. Things like bananas, tropical fruit and grapes are a no go area for many but berries are usually tolerated reasonably well but other fruits like melon, apples, pears and citrus people have to be careful of.
The best way of seeing what you can tolerate carb wise is by testing with a blood glucose monitor.
Keeping a food diary of everything you eat and drink is a useful way of seeing where you could make some savings on the carbohydrates but will also give you an idea of what you are currently having and then maybe you need to gradually reduce the carbs to a lower level.
The SW meals have been successful for some people but for others they are too focused on calories rather than carbs but as long as you are aware of the carb content you can adjust for your needs.
Hi All, 25/08/2021 - Link: https://www.england.nhs.uk/diabetes/treatment-care/low-calorie-diets/ - Includes links at the bottom to DiRECT Year 1, DiRECT Year 2 & DROPLET Trials ;) 25/08/2021 - Link: https://oviva.com/uk/en/programme/diabetes-remission/#join - This explains the programme...
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there are many other threads in the weight loss group along the same theme - very useful info and shows different ways to achieve the same thing- weight loss
my thread is based on an NHS pilot of 5000 people (selected NHS areas) which I’ve been thinking extremely lucky to have got onto, but there are ways of achieving the same goal, and sounds like your GP is with the latest guidance (some aren’t yet)
please also look up the DiRECT trial which Roy Taylor and so many others have been successful and are now slowly turning the NHS round
Thank you for this. I have 8 lbs to lose to reach 10% body weight loss and I don't intend stopping. I don’t know why it became acceptable to me to keep moving up to bigger sizes in clothes. Not as if I am rich. I was strictly 9 st 8 lbs for years and last 20 years I let myself go. If I get my weight down regardless it will do the trick? I will read your recommendations. Jeanette
Good going so far! - no-one can promise it will do the trick - even I still need to be careful so as not to regain that weight, but the benefits in any case make it massively worth while…
Thank you. I adjust the sw meals and I really only have Weetabix or one slice of wholemeal bread. SW was the week before I knew I had diabetes and I joined because I didn’t like how I looked. I’m not eating my potatoes or rice very often. My weakness is tangerines and oranges. I read both have low GI. I don't have a meter I’ve had 2 Synocare and couldn’t get them to work. They went from 9 to low. Both meters. I returned them. I still have about 7 stones to lose. Jeanette
Two reliable and inexpensive monitors that people recommend are the GlucoNavil or Spirit TEE2 (approx £15) as they have the least expensive test strips (approx £8 for 50). Both from Amazon I think. It really is invaluable to have a monitor as it gives you the control of adjusting your diet to what your body can tolerate.
That is a cracking good price. I hope you also ordered the strips to go with it as strips are specific to the monitor so you would not be able to use the strips from your previous monitor.
..... I know it’s serious but it’s not the only illness I’ve got and I have to accommodate everything going on in my body. I’ve got very bad IBS and have to eat to help that. So my doctor recommended this website and I’ve just taken steps to change gradually what I’m doing. It was my bowel I was in hospital for. I have an unknown type of polyposis and have to get the polyps removed and a biopsy every so often. Inherited. I’ve got a theme going in my head I read somewhere. Make vegetables the base of your plate and add other food on top. the fast 800 diet is very strict. I tried it for 4 days before and I was very cold but they have motivation and recipes which are helpful. I didn’t think it was a goid idea for a 71 yo old to go around shivering. I will take the best ideas from everything. I realise I’ve a lot more to do. Today I’m making 3% fat meatballs with my added veg and broccoli and going to make red cabbage and apple that will last a few days.
Hi @jeanettem1 Like you I have bowel polyps. In my case it is MYH associated polyposis.
I also needed a 3 x cardio artery bypass more than 90% blocked though I never had an actual heart attack).
I was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes just over 2 yrs ago and was considered to be a slim diabetic, since I was only just into the 'overweight' rage of BMIs having put on around 14lbs after being frightened into eating ultra low fat high wholegrains for several years.
Upon my Type 2 diagnosis the GP and Diabetes nurse advised doubling down again on low fat -even though it is carbs that make most of us fat rather than the fat we eat and also it is our reaction to carbs which makes us diabetic unlike Fat which has no effect on our Blood Glucose. So I read about all the Low Carb successes with diabetes remission and asked the nurse about it. She said it couldn't be done and I should eat 6 meals per day with whole grains and try to lose weight.
I decided I would prove them wrong and so did just the opposite i.e. I tried not to lose weight by eating low carb but more protein and higher fat (particularly fatty meats and hard cheeses). It only took 2 weeks fo9r me to have a BG meter and be testing all y meals by which time I had lost 4lbs (while trying not to) and my BG numbers were so good that I knew I would at least be down to the pre-diabetic levels at my next HbA1C blood test.. By the one after that I was officially in drug free remission, having a 'normal non-diabetic HbA1C of 37.
I'm not saying that weight loss doesn't work, just that most dieters can't keep the weight off. But a Low Carb way of eating (for most people) does reduce your weight as well as putting Type 2 Diabetes into remission. It's not guaranteed to work for everybody, since some just don't want to eat all that lovely delicious food, but for me it was a heck of a lot easier than starving myself!
I ditched the low fat high whole grain high fruit way of eating upon diagnosis of T2 - because I'd been doing it for over 10 yrs and it obviously wasn't working for me.
I prefer to eat as much (low carb) food as I want rather than to starve myself, so decided to try the Low Carb Higher Protein Moderate Traditional Fat method of Dr David Unwin way rather than the crash diet (Prof Roy Taylor) way. But perhaps starvation suits some better.
The Fast 800 is a compromise between the 2 methods since it uses 'real food', but it still suffers from the fact you can only do it for a limited time and then you need a way of eating which is sustainable for life. So why not just do that in the first place.
My Brother delayed getting tested for MYH for 10 yrs after me ( he is only 15 month younger) by which time he had 2 cancerous polyps and needed his colon removed.
Me I have a polyp trim regularly, but only need it every couple of years now.
I ditched the low fat high whole grain high fruit way of eating upon diagnosis of T2 - because I'd been doing it for over 10 yrs and it obviously wasn't working for me.
I prefer to eat as much (low carb) food as I want rather than to starve myself, so decided to try the Low Carb Higher Protein Moderate Traditional Fat method of Dr David Unwin way rather than the crash diet (Prof Roy Taylor) way. But perhaps starvation suits some better.
The Fast 800 is a compromise between the 2 methods since it uses 'real food', but it still suffers from the fact you can only do it for a limited time and then you need a way of eating which is sustainable for life. So why not just do that in the first place.
My Brother delayed getting tested for MYH for 10 yrs after me ( he is only 15 month younger) by which time he had 2 cancerous polyps and needed his colon removed.
Me I have a polyp trim regularly, but only need it every couple of years now.
I’m not doing Michael Mosley. I’m doing great in SW and adapting to suit myself. Fast 800 is too strict. Wasted money again on the books . Hope you’re doing well
Pleased to hear you are doing great. We are all different, so there is no approach that will suit everybody.
I'm maintaining my weight and my non-diabetic levels of HbA1C as I have been for over a year, so unlikely to change now.
Pleased to hear you are doing great. We are all different, so there is no approach that will suit everybody.
I'm maintaining my weight and my non-diabetic levels of HbA1C as I have been for over a year, so unlikely to change now.
Wonderful. Mine was 7,1 waking I think that’s very good and getting closer to remission. 5.1 the other day. Doc is taking bloods in December. 25 lbs in 13 weeks docs are very pleased with me and not starving myself. Forgot to say. They’re not doing any more colonoscopies. I suspect it’s more to do with my age 71. than my genetic BC however, only had 4 polyps this time and said they were low grade
Congratulations on the weight loss and it's great to hear that your nurse is happy with your progress.
It sounds like you're on a good path towards diabetes remission. Did you speak with your doctor/nurse about the low-calorie diet?
Here's a good page on diabetes remission on our website. I hope by December you'll get good news. In the meantime feel free to ask any questions you have on the forum, people here are always willing to help. 🙂
Thank you Cameron. I don’ t have a nurse. It’s my doctor I spoke to on Friday. He’s very pleased. I hope the rest of the weight loss to come brings me into remission. My waking glucose was 7.1 this morning. It’s defibbately coming down. There’s things I can lower if I feel it’s not coming down , like my yogurts and fruits. He said he doesn’t want my glucose levels too low because of my age. Fingers crossed fir December
Thank you Cameron. I don’ t have a nurse. It’s my doctor I spoke to on Friday. He’s very pleased. I hope the rest of the weight loss to come brings me into remission. My waking glucose was 7.1 this morning. It’s defibbately coming down. There’s things I can lower if I feel it’s not coming down , like my yogurts and fruits. He said he doesn’t want my glucose levels too low because of my age. Fingers crossed fir December
Unless you are taking glucose lowering medication your glucose levels will not go too low - there is no mechanism for that. If you need more glucose for some activity then your liver releases it - it will also release it when you might not need it, but you are not going to lower your blood glucose levels by eating 'too few' carbs, as there is no such thing.
Unless you are taking glucose lowering medication your glucose levels will not go too low - there is no mechanism for that. If you need more glucose for some activity then your liver releases it - it will also release it when you might not need it, but you are not going to lower your blood glucose levels by eating 'too few' carbs, as there is no such thing.
My doctor is happy with what I’m doing and if you look at the diet on this website we can include carbs! You do what’s working for you and I will do what works for me! I will listen to my doctor despite good intentions ! I’m not doing it with medication I’m doing it with diet and weight loss and it’s working for me. Seriously I don’t think you’re giving out good advice about carbs!
