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ColinUK said:
I’m curious to know what your BG readings are before and after things like fish fingers, mash, new spuds and sweet potato.
We’re all different but the potato and sweet potato dishes would spike my levels.
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I don't take after readings, but my book says new potatoes with skins on are okay and sweet potatoes are lower in carbs and the fibre is better so that's why I mix them.
 
Leadinglights said:
Breaded or battered fish tends to be more carbs than you would think for a piece of fish and if you are then having it with mash which is also high carb and adding peas which are more carbs than broccoli or cabbage or courgettes, I have found lightly dusted cod fillets are better carb wise.
Baked beans are high carb so with the toast it would make a high carb combination, the bacon is fine so maybe have with an egg or mushrooms. But testing as suggested will tell you if they suit you.
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I'm getting conflicting advice. My books are telling me one thing and people on here are telling me different.
 
Poppypat said:
I'm getting conflicting advice. My books are telling me one thing and people on here are telling me different.
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Unfortunately there is no "one size fits all" as our bodies all react differently. If you read the other newbie posts you'll see most type 2s are advised to test before the first bite and 2 hours after looking ideally for a rise of no more than 2. I used the Carbs & Cals book which really helped.
 
Poppypat said:
Sorry got the title a bit wrong it's https://www.amazon.co.uk/Can-Eat-Th...keywords=what+can+I+eat&qid=1629398679&sr=8-1
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Ah! OK. I was thinking of this one:

What on Earth Can I Eat?: Food, Type 2 Diabetes and YOU: Amazon.co.uk: Shanley, Alan: 9781453863213: Books

Buy What on Earth Can I Eat?: Food, Type 2 Diabetes and YOU 1 by Shanley, Alan (ISBN: 9781453863213) from Amazon's Book Store. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders.
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Alan S is a former member here, and his ‘test review adjust’ post has helped a lot of people over the years

Test, Review, Adjust

Managing blood glucose levels for type 2 diabetes. Learning how to achieve long term control by testing and diet.
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Poppypat said:
I'm getting conflicting advice. My books are telling me one thing and people on here are telling me different.
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You are always going to get different views because people react differently to foods they eat and therefore have to restrict carbohydrates to a level which enables them to reduce their blood glucose levels. Some people will manage having 130g carbs per day some need to go as low as 50g or less and it is only by testing your blood glucose levels before and 2hrs after eating can you tell what your body can tolerate. But the key is that it is reduction of carbs FOR TYPE 2 is essential and even with medication dietary changes are important.
I think you will find that is a consistent view of more up to date thinking of more enlightened G Ps It is the traditional NHS advise which has not caught up with all the more recent research on managing type 2 diabetes and prediabetes.
What are your books saying that you feel is in conflict with views here.
 
Hello Poppypat.

I think first of all it is a good idea to have a goal to aim for.
I think a good goal is to aim to reduce your blood sugars down to the 8 - 10 level to begin with from this point.
I think it might be helpful for you to take a day to experiment with what some people are saying here and then you can see if it works or not. If it does then you will know you can trust that information and then feel more confident moving forward.

I suggest this as an experiment for one day. But I don't know about the meds you are on and whether cutting carbs as low as I suggest here is okay for you on your meds - maybe someone here can advise on that? @everydayupsanddowns?

Breakfast:

2 slices of streaky bacon plus a fried egg and fried mushrooms with a cup of coffee (decaff or caffeinated but decaff is better) with erythritol sweetener (if you like it sweetened) and some double cream.

morning coffee at 11 - coffee again or a cup of tea - if coffee have cream in it again and if you are okay with nuts have two or three walnuts with it or if you prefer a small chunk of cheddar cheese.

Lunchtime: A lamb chop or a piece of steak or a pork chop - not lean ones have one with a nice thick piece of fat on it and grill it or dry fry it. I sprinkle some salt on mine and then fry them until the fat goes nice and crispy.
Have that with some steamed green beans or broccoli or spinach - I cook mine in the microwave - and put a nice big dollop of butter on the green veg. Eat it slowly and savour it.
Drink a nice BIG glass of water with this.
Have a dessert - whisk up some of that double cream (about two table spoons) and mix it with some coffee granules and some erythritol sweetener of your choice to your taste. Eat it with a spoon and enjoy.

Evening meal:
Some ham with cucumber and leafy salad of your choice with real full fat mayonnaise. Mix some grated cheese in with the mayonnaise.
Drink water.
Just give that a try for one day and measure your blood sugars that day just to see what happens.

I'm guessing you will feel stuffed full and you will be amazed that your levels will be much improved.
 
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@NotWorriedAtAll It is not safe to advise someone on gliclazide, which makes the pancreas produce more insulin regardless of what you eat, to suddenly try such a low carb diet. Gliclazide without enough carbs can result in hypos. In any case, it isn’t appropriate to give specific advise unless you are the persons medical professional.

The safest suggestion to give is to make gradual changes until blood sugars reach a safe level. This helps minimise risk of hypos, makes coping with the changes more manageable, and reduces risk of serious eye complications that can be caused by reducing blood sugar too quickly.
 
Lucyr said:
@NotWorriedAtAll It is not safe to advise someone on gliclazide, which makes the pancreas produce more insulin regardless of what you eat, to suddenly try such a low carb diet. Gliclazide without enough carbs can result in hypos. In any case, it isn’t appropriate to give specific advise unless you are the persons medical professional.

The safest suggestion to give is to make gradual changes until blood sugars reach a safe level. This helps minimise risk of hypos, makes coping with the changes more manageable, and reduces risk of serious eye complications that can be caused by reducing blood sugar too quickly.
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That is what I thought and why I asked whether it would be safe on the meds specified. Thank you for clarifying.
 
I have found that the up to date, very experienced, and wise (?) Advice from people here is way way better than the books which can be out of date (in terms of present understanding), even completely wrong. So my advice would be to listen to the folks here. Read of their succesess, various strategies, etc. Then make up your own mid about what will suit you better and may help you be 'better'
 
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