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Leadinglights
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Many find that if they lose weight then blood glucose can be lowered to normal level but and it is a big but it will depend on very many factors.
What your starting point is, how much weight you have to lose and how high your HbA1C is will be important factors as will what method you chose. Also has medication been prescribed or it is by dietary changes only.
Many find a low carbohydrate approach is very successful, others will find low calorie or shakes-based regimes work for them. The important thing is that it must be sustainable otherwise people then put the weight back on and are back to square one.
A bit more information about your circumstances will help people make appropriate comments.
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Welcome to the forum @Lulu9
There is research that shows that significant weight loss can remove visceral fat from around organs in the abdomen, and may help some people with diabetes to achieve remission.
There’s an article about the research here:
www.diabetes.org.uk
We have some members here who have followed the ‘newcastle diet’ with some success.
It seems that there is a programme that is being rolled out across the country for people to have the option of seeing if it works for them
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There is research that shows that significant weight loss can remove visceral fat from around organs in the abdomen, and may help some people with diabetes to achieve remission.
There’s an article about the research here:
Weight loss can put type 2 diabetes into remission for at least 5 years, DiRECT study reveals
UPDATE, 26 FEBRUARY, 2024: This article has been updated following new findings into our landmark DiRECT study which have been published in the Lancet. Results from a three-year extension of our landmark DIRECT study reveal that for some it’s possible to stay in remission of type 2 diabetes for...
We have some members here who have followed the ‘newcastle diet’ with some success.
It seems that there is a programme that is being rolled out across the country for people to have the option of seeing if it works for them
NHS England » NHS Type 2 Diabetes Path to Remission Programme
The NHS Type 2 Diabetes Path to Remission Programme is a joint initiative between NHS England and Diabetes UK available to eligible people in England. This programme provides a low calorie, total diet replacement treatment for people who are living with type 2 diabetes and obesity or overweight...
www.england.nhs.uk
Many thanks for reply. This is a complex disease and to make it even more difficult no two people respond the same way to the same diet.uhh.
I'm going to try the low carb low sugar approach for a month I think. Track everything and review.
I'm taking insulin twice a day and I really want to get off it. I also need to lose weight. I think I will try Michael moselys fast800
Hi, thanks so much for your reply. I haven't heard of the Newcastle diet do you have a link for it?Welcome to the forum @Lulu9
There is research that shows that significant weight loss can remove visceral fat from around organs in the abdomen, and may help some people with diabetes to achieve remission.
There’s an article about the research here:
Weight loss can put type 2 diabetes into remission for at least 5 years, DiRECT study reveals
UPDATE, 26 FEBRUARY, 2024: This article has been updated following new findings into our landmark DiRECT study which have been published in the Lancet. Results from a three-year extension of our landmark DIRECT study reveal that for some it’s possible to stay in remission of type 2 diabetes for...
We have some members here who have followed the ‘newcastle diet’ with some success.
It seems that there is a programme that is being rolled out across the country for people to have the option of seeing if it works for them
NHS England » NHS Type 2 Diabetes Path to Remission Programme
The NHS Type 2 Diabetes Path to Remission Programme is a joint initiative between NHS England and Diabetes UK available to eligible people in England. This programme provides a low calorie, total diet replacement treatment for people who are living with type 2 diabetes and obesity or overweight...
I'm will do fast800 otherwise but it would be good to see the Newcastle diet. Grateful to all help
..this is such an overwhelming situation...
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If you are taking insulin then you may need a different approach as low carb may not be as suitable as it would for people on oral medication or diet alone management.
Do be careful, I hope some of those folk who are in the same situation will be along to comment.
Which specific insulin are you taking and have you been advised about how many carbs you should have with the dose you are taking.
It can be dangerous, risk of hypos if you have too few carbs for your insulin dose.
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The 'Newcastle diet' is the same as the Direct Trial, or 800 cal diet, or whatever other names it’s known by. The research was originally carried out by Professor Roy Taylor at Newcastle University, hence one of its names.
Ahh I see. Thanks Robin
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Yes, all of them, and the 'NHS soup and shakes diet', take the form of a relatively short (usually 8-12 week) period of a VLCD-- 'very low calorie diet'-- followed by a longer period of a less restrictive diet (but still lower in calories than you will have been used to). For example, here's a link for the Newcastle Diet: https://www.ncl.ac.uk/media/wwwncla.../files/201809 Sample Recipes & meal plans.pdf
This is based on lots of research showing that an initial period of severe calorie restriction makes your body get rid of visceral fat much more quickly, and it's the visceral fat that causes Type 2.
Also, starting with a period of VLCD is psychologically helpful for many people. For one thing, you get tangible results faster, which supports your resolve to stick with it. And-- if you go from eating a high-calorie diet to eating a moderately low-calorie diet, you initially feel deprived. But, after 12 weeks of severe calorie restriction, even moderately low-calorie meals seem like a treat!
Obviously, if you're using insulin, you will have to reduce your insulin if you are consuming fewer carbs. You say you're "taking insulin twice a day"? If you want to do (say) the Fast 800-- you will first of all need to speak to your diabetes team about how much to reduce your insulin during the different phases of the Fast 800 plan.
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Hi @Lulu9 and welcome to the forum, I can see the other members above have provided very useful information for you.
We have some info on our website about diabetes remission, which can be found here: https://www.diabetes.org.uk/diabetes-the-basics/type-2-reverse.
While speaking generally, it mentions different ways to lose weight to try put type 2 diabetes into remission. We also have information on different kinds of diets, meal plans and recipes which can help with this.
We have some info on our website about diabetes remission, which can be found here: https://www.diabetes.org.uk/diabetes-the-basics/type-2-reverse.
While speaking generally, it mentions different ways to lose weight to try put type 2 diabetes into remission. We also have information on different kinds of diets, meal plans and recipes which can help with this.
I am a bit stubborn thinking I can do this by myself but the truth is I am more likely to succeed of I get the right help, so I hear you and I am going to contact my diabetes team today for help on the insulin front.
I will let you know how I get on xxx
I will let you know how I get on xxx
Mrs Mimoo
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this is what sent my HbA1C from 55 to 37.... Newcastle diet. BUT i was not on insulin so please do consult someone about how that works xx
I will, thanks. I have tried to contact my diabetes team only to find I am no longer listed with them and have to be re-referred by my GP!!!!
Have had to go through at least 3 econsult trying to get a GP to call me...no calls received!!! What's one to do..any suggestions please
Have had to go through at least 3 econsult trying to get a GP to call me...no calls received!!! What's one to do..any suggestions please
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