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Diagnosed type 2 last Dec. My blood over 3 months is now 7.8. I am 65 and wondered if the parameters change with age?
 
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Diagnosed type 2 last Dec. My blood over 3 months is now 7.8. I am 65 and wondered if the parameters change with age?
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Welcome to the forum.
I assume that the 'blood' is the result of an Hba1C test which gives an average over the previous 3 months and is 7.8% which is actually the old units but converts to 62mmol/mol which is what is now used. The threshold for diagnosis is anything over 47mmol/mol so you are a little way into the diabetic zone but by no means so far that some lifestyle changes won't get you back to normal range. Is that your level now or where you were at diagnosis.
Have you been prescribed any medication and given any dietary advice as diet will have the most impact on reducing your blood glucose.
I think there has been mention about the level which more mature people should be achieving but that I would think is for people in their 70ies and 80ies.
Most people would like to be able to get below 42mmol/mol which would be normal but are often told by their GP that below 48 mmol/mol is OK but that decision has to be up to the individual as to what they are happy with.
Personally my aim was to be below 42 and found that has been achievable with no medication and a low carb dietary approach. 2 years from diagnosis I am now at 39mmol/mol.
 
Hi @frankygirl and welcome to the forum.
I was a little older than you when diagnosed, but like @Leadinglights I discovered the Low Carb way of eating (no calorie restriction) and just used that plus when fat adapted I added Time Restricted Eating (aka Intermittent Fasting) when I was no longer hungry at breakfast time. The resultant improvement was so quick that I had no need of medication and I have now been in remission for over 2 yrs and weigh (at 72) about the same as I did when in my 20's.
 
Hi @frankygirl , welcome to the forum 🙂

Hopefully, you're finding the support here helpful so far. It truly is such a lovely community, and we are always happy to help - no question too small. Please do ask (ask, ask) away!

In terms of how parameters change with age, we do know age is a risk factor for developing diabetes.

Hopefully, some of our members may be able to give a bit more personal insight into this too 🙂

If you're comfortable saying a bit more about any medication you're on, and advice you're already aware of, this can help us best help you 🙂
In the meanwhile, feel free to have a look at our 'Learning Zone' - the orange tab at the top of the page - which does have videos around diet, as well as the Diabetes UK website, there's lots of information there too 🙂
 
Leadinglights said:
Welcome to the forum.
I assume that the 'blood' is the result of an Hba1C test which gives an average over the previous 3 months and is 7.8% which is actually the old units but converts to 62mmol/mol which is what is now used. The threshold for diagnosis is anything over 47mmol/mol so you are a little way into the diabetic zone but by no means so far that some lifestyle changes won't get you back to normal range. Is that your level now or where you were at diagnosis.
Have you been prescribed any medication and given any dietary advice as diet will have the most impact on reducing your blood glucose.
I think there has been mention about the level which more mature people should be achieving but that I would think is for people in their 70ies and 80ies.
Most people would like to be able to get below 42mmol/mol which would be normal but are often told by their GP that below 48 mmol/mol is OK but that decision has to be up to the individual as to what they are happy with.
Personally my aim was to be below 42 and found that has been achievable with no medication and a low carb dietary approach. 2 years from diagnosis I am now at 39mmol/mol.
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I had reading of 21.3 and spent a week in hospital. I was prescribed a semulglutide rebelsus 3mg increasing to 7mg which made me feel really sick, as well as jardiance 10mg. I stopped taking the rebelsus and feel fine with just jardiance but 7.8 is the level I am at now after 6 months and I wondered if I should be at the higher dose of 25mg jardiance
 
frankygirl said:
I had reading of 21.3 and spent a week in hospital. I was prescribed a semulglutide rebelsus 3mg increasing to 7mg which made me feel really sick, as well as jardiance 10mg. I stopped taking the rebelsus and feel fine with just jardiance but 7.8 is the level I am at now after 6 months and I wondered if I should be at the higher dose of 25mg jardiance
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I'm afraid those blood test results don't make a lot of sense without the units as that will indicate what the test actually was. If it was a 23.3% result for an HbA1C that would convert to 209mmol/mol so off the scale high.
If however it was the result of a finger prick ie.a moment in time reading and was 21.3mmol/l then yes it is high.
The reading now at 7.8 is that a finger prick test in which case it would be in mmol/l and not too bad or is it the result of an HbA1C in % which as I said convert into 62mmol/mol.
Some clarity on those numbers would help.
Were you admitted to hospital because of symptoms that turned out to be diabetes.*//
 
frankygirl said:
I had reading of 21.3 and spent a week in hospital. I was prescribed a semulglutide rebelsus 3mg increasing to 7mg which made me feel really sick, as well as jardiance 10mg. I stopped taking the rebelsus and feel fine with just jardiance but 7.8 is the level I am at now after 6 months and I wondered if I should be at the higher dose of 25mg jardiance
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Hi, I'm fairly sure that you are mixing up two distinctly different tests which even have different measurement units here.
A finger-prick blood (Blood Glucose) test might give a reading of 21.3 (which is very high) and if that is now down to 7.8 on average over 3 months, that is great - but how did you get an average figure ? If the 7.8 is from a test where blood is drawn from a vein into a phial and sent off to a lab, then that is an HbA1C (Hemoglobin A1C test) which is of how much sugar your red blood cells have been exposed to over their 3 month Life and the 7.8 is actually 7.8% and is also high!

However if that 7.8 is from a Blood Glucose test, the that is a much more comfortable number and it depends upon when it was taken (in relation to meals) as to exactly how comfortable it is.
 
Both the 21.3 and the 7.8 are from the HbA1c 6 months apart, Dec 2022 and June 2023. Blood drawn from a vein and sent to lab
 
Leadinglights said:
I'm afraid those blood test results don't make a lot of sense without the units as that will indicate what the test actually was. If it was a 23.3% result for an HbA1C that would convert to 209mmol/mol so off the scale high.
If however it was the result of a finger prick ie.a moment in time reading and was 21.3mmol/l then yes it is high.
The reading now at 7.8 is that a finger prick test in which case it would be in mmol/l and not too bad or is it the result of an HbA1C in % which as I said convert into 62mmol/mol.
Some clarity on those numbers would help.
Were you admitted to hospital because of symptoms that turned out to be diabetes.*//
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Yes I am diabetic now, both blood tests are HbA1C Dec 2022 and June 2023. Taken from vein and sent to lab.
 
frankygirl said:
Yes I am diabetic now, both blood tests are HbA1C Dec 2022 and June 2023. Taken from vein and sent to lab.
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So in Dec 2022 your HbA1C was 21.3% which converted is 209 mmol/mol and in June 2023 is 7.8% which converts to 62mmol/mol.
Other than the medication have you been doing anything to get that amazing reduction in HbA1C.
I am surprised with a level as high as 209mmol/mol that you were not given insulin and perhaps tested to check that you are not Type 1
 
frankygirl said:
Both the 21.3 and the 7.8 are from the HbA1c 6 months apart, Dec 2022 and June 2023. Blood drawn from a vein and sent to lab
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I think you must be confused. Ask for a printout of the results. Those might have been your glucose reading rather than hba1c

HBA1Cs aren’t reported as %s any more and even when they were, no one has a hba1c of 21.3%
 
Leadinglights said:
I'm afraid those blood test results don't make a lot of sense without the units as that will indicate what the test actually was. If it was a 23.3% result for an HbA1C that would convert to 209mmol/mol so off the scale high.
If however it was the result of a finger prick ie.a moment in time reading and was 21.3mmol/l then yes it is high.
The reading now at 7.8 is that a finger prick test in which case it would be in mmol/l and not too bad or is it the result of an HbA1C in % which as I said convert into 62mmol/mol.
Some clarity on those numbers would help.
Were you admitted to hospital because of symptoms that turned out to be diabetes.*//
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You are right. I was looking at the glucose readings. I live in Hungary and all my results are in Hungarian. I have rechecked and my HbA1c(IFCC) was 118 and is now 42, HbA1c(NGSP) was 12.9 and is now 6. That makes me feel so much better. According to this now I am at the top end of being in control.(I think)
I was admitted to hospital because I just went for blood tests (privately) to see if I was deficient in some vitamins or something being lethargic and tingling in my feet etc. Blood test was so bad doctor told me to go straight to emergency and I was admitted immediately into (equivalent NHS) and they were fantastic. I was on insulin for about 2month but I am seeing a diabetologist and have slowly worked down to where I am now, but it is a lot to take in with so many different tablets etc. Thank you for your help x
 
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