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New to here but not new to T2.. been in remission for 7 years thanks to ultra low carb /keto/carnivore diet.
No meds and sustained weight loss.
 
Welcome to the forum

We have a whole range of dietary approaches on the forum, some moderate, low, or very low carb, and others who have opted for Newcastle very low calorie approaches, or weight loss through adapted Slimming World or Weightwatchers style programmes.

You have to find a system that works for you 🙂
 
everydayupsanddowns said:
Welcome to the forum

We have a whole range of dietary approaches on the forum, some moderate, low, or very low carb, and others who have opted for Newcastle very low calorie approaches, or weight loss through adapted Slimming World or Weightwatchers style programmes.

You have to find a system that works for you 🙂
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I did thanks. These are my long term results


Diagnosed 30/10/2015 HbA1c 70 weight 143 kg
18/12/2015 HbA1c 45 weight 132.5 kg
26/01/2016 HbA1c 36 weight 125 kg
19/07/2016 HbA1c 27 weight 110kg Total Cholesterol 5.6 no breakdown (useless!)
13/01/2017 HbA1c 27 weight 103kg Total Cholesterol 5.7 HDL 1.46 Trigs 0.8
18/07/2017 HbA1c 29 weight 97.8kg Total Cholesterol 6.0 HDL 1.72 Trigs 0.6
18/10/2017 HbA1c 28 weight 96.34kg Total Cholesterol 7.3 HDL 1.60 Trigs 1.3
15/10/2018 HbA1c 27 weight 95.35kg Total Cholesterol 6.3 HDL 1.51 Trigs1.0
14/01/2020 HbA1c 27 weight 91.17kg Total Cholesterol 8.2 HDL 1.74 Trigs 0.92
03/06/2020 HbA1c 27 weight 90.36kg Total Cholesterol 7.1 HDL 1.35 Trigs 1.8
01/12/2020 HbA1c 29 weight 94.35kg Total Cholesterol 6.7 HDL 1.57 Trigs 1.21
17/06/2021 HbA1c 28 weight 99.00kg Total Cholesterol 7.8 HDL 1.7 Trigs 1.0
10/12/2021 HbA1c 30 weight 103.5 kg Total Cholesterol 8.2 HDL 1.75 Trigs 0.9
14/06/2022 HbA1c 30 Weight 103.2kg Total Cholesterol 8.9 HDL 1.6 Trigs 2.0 (38 hour fast pre bloods)
24/08/2022 HbA1c 29 weight 106.2 kg Total Cholesterol 7.3 HDL 1.67 Trigs 0.93 Predict study data
 
bulkbiker said:
I did thanks. These are my long term results


Diagnosed 30/10/2015 HbA1c 70 weight 143 kg
18/12/2015 HbA1c 45 weight 132.5 kg
26/01/2016 HbA1c 36 weight 125 kg
19/07/2016 HbA1c 27 weight 110kg Total Cholesterol 5.6 no breakdown (useless!)
13/01/2017 HbA1c 27 weight 103kg Total Cholesterol 5.7 HDL 1.46 Trigs 0.8
18/07/2017 HbA1c 29 weight 97.8kg Total Cholesterol 6.0 HDL 1.72 Trigs 0.6
18/10/2017 HbA1c 28 weight 96.34kg Total Cholesterol 7.3 HDL 1.60 Trigs 1.3
15/10/2018 HbA1c 27 weight 95.35kg Total Cholesterol 6.3 HDL 1.51 Trigs1.0
14/01/2020 HbA1c 27 weight 91.17kg Total Cholesterol 8.2 HDL 1.74 Trigs 0.92
03/06/2020 HbA1c 27 weight 90.36kg Total Cholesterol 7.1 HDL 1.35 Trigs 1.8
01/12/2020 HbA1c 29 weight 94.35kg Total Cholesterol 6.7 HDL 1.57 Trigs 1.21
17/06/2021 HbA1c 28 weight 99.00kg Total Cholesterol 7.8 HDL 1.7 Trigs 1.0
10/12/2021 HbA1c 30 weight 103.5 kg Total Cholesterol 8.2 HDL 1.75 Trigs 0.9
14/06/2022 HbA1c 30 Weight 103.2kg Total Cholesterol 8.9 HDL 1.6 Trigs 2.0 (38 hour fast pre bloods)
24/08/2022 HbA1c 29 weight 106.2 kg Total Cholesterol 7.3 HDL 1.67 Trigs 0.93 Predict study data
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High cholesterol is better for you?
 
I certainly don't see it as a problem with a trig/HDL ratio of 0.93/1.67 = 0.556

"High total cholesterol" is a meaningless number anyway in my view (and that of many heart disease specialists).
 
bulkbiker said:
I certainly don't see it as a problem with a trig/HDL ratio of 0.93/1.67 = 0.556

"High total cholesterol" is a meaningless number anyway in my view (and that of many heart disease specialists).
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Ratio's aren't really used anymore.
It's all about the numbers now.
 
I’d see a cholesterol level in the 7s as a problem. That’s what leaps out at me from your chart. The BMI would be interesting too though, as you could be very short or very tall.
 
Inka said:
I’d see a cholesterol level in the 7s as a problem. That’s what leaps out at me from your chart. The BMI would be interesting too though, as you could be very short or very tall.
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LDL in the high 6's and 7's and I'd think "Erm?"
 
Much as I am an advocate for low carb and higher fat way of eating, I would be concerned if my cholesterol was that high (particularly as it has gone up since you started 7 years ago) and you might want to look at increasing the soluble fibre in your diet to try to improve that if you haven't already. Fibre is a really important part of our diet and my body really struggled when I cut all the wholemeal products I was eating before diagnosis. I believe that Introducing a fibre supplement has really improved things for me.
I use a fibre drink each morning which is a mixture of psyllium husk and chia seeds. I have about a dessert spoon of each in a glass of water with a dash of ACV but you could sprinkle them on food and I know of one member of the forum who has chia seeds in his coffee. The seeds absorb water to become gelatinous so I would imagine the coffee almost turns into a runny sort of porridge which may be a turn off for some people. They don't really taste of anything, so it is just the texture. They can however be sprinkled in or on food but you do need to drink plenty with them. I also use them to thicken up soups and stews where I would normally use flour and they can be used in baking too. Just thought I would mention it as something to try to reduce your overall cholesterol.
Many congrats on your successful diabetes management.
 
travellor said:
LDL in the high 6's and 7's and I'd think "Erm?"
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Yet LDL is never used to predict heart attack risk in the QRisk calculation.. ever wondered why that might be?
 
travellor said:
Ratio's aren't really used anymore.
It's all about the numbers now.
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I beg to differ but ratios are indeed used a lot (and should be used more).
You do realise that cholesterol levels are more dynamic than blood glucose levels don't you?
A snapshot of what your cholesterol is at specific moment in time is pretty meaningless.
 
travellor said:
We all make the choices we need to, if you choose to see LDL as good, that's your choice.
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I see LDL for what it is ... a calculated number with little to no meaning. I'm perfectly happy with mine thanks.
 
Inka said:
I’d see a cholesterol level in the 7s as a problem. That’s what leaps out at me from your chart. The BMI would be interesting too though, as you could be very short or very tall.
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Why would you see it as a problem?
Without cholesterol we'd all be dead.
My BMI is about 30 on average.
 
The body (Liver) makes all the cholesterol it needs, and can do it from proteins and carbohydrates via triglycerides. A small amount comes from food we eat directly using dietary fats.

Who said anything about 'no' cholesterol? Most people here understand that cholesterol is used to make hormones and other things.

The link between elevated LDL and heart disease in some people is pretty strong. There's a condition that leads to elevated LDL and if left uncontrolled can lead to heart disease - my niece has it, and her Dad's side of the family has a history of people dying young with heart disease (Including her aunt, at 30) due to high LDL.
 
bulkbiker said:
Why would you see it as a problem?
Without cholesterol we'd all be dead.
My BMI is about 30 on average.
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Without water we’d all be dead but that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to drink gallons a day.

Could getting your BMI down below 25 help further?
 
Inka said:
Without water we’d all be dead but that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to drink gallons a day.

Could getting your BMI down below 25 help further?
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Help to do what?
 
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