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Kitch

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Im Andy, newly diagnosed type 2, struggling to come to terms with it all, specially the weight loss that has really effected my mental health, started today (this morning with am and pm level tests, bad cash of thrush ‍♂️, all seems too much at once to digest, struggling with what and what not to eat, I'm all over the place. Any how, sorry for the long winded intro. Hi Everyone.

Andy..
 
Im Andy, newly diagnosed type 2, struggling to come to terms with it all, specially the weight loss that has really effected my mental health
Weight loss? Type 2 diabetes doesn't usually cause weight loss. (Often someone overweight who also has Type 2 diabetes will be advised to try and lose weight (which is generally a hard thing to do), but that's something they achieve through significant effort.)

So welcome to the forum, and I'm sure people with Type 2 will suggest dietary changes. I'd worry a bit about the weight loss unless you know why that happened (because you were trying to lose weight, usually). Sudden weight loss is one of the signs for Type 1 diabetes (though there are other causes, of course).
 
Thanks. Doctor said type 2, blood sugar varies between 14 and 30, put me on 2mg Glimepiride, which, only started that this morning, I'm only on a 3 day am and pm levels check and back to docs on Monday, the weight loss has happened over the course of 2 month, I haven't been eating correctly, being in a major calorie deficit for a few weeks now. Plus in a hyerstimulative state due to my anxiety. Health Anxiety is dreadful.
 
Doctor said type 2, blood sugar varies between 14 and 30, put me on 2mg Glimepiride, which, only started that this morning, I'm only on a 3 day am and pm levels check and back to docs on Monday, the weight loss has happened over the course of 2 month, I haven't been eating correctly, being in a major calorie deficit for a few weeks now.
OK, that makes more sense.
 
I'm just thankful there's this forum to come to, it gives a sense of relief, it honestly feels like my whole world has been tipped upside down. Thanks for your replies.

Andy,
I'm sure someone will reply who knows more about Type 2 than me. In the meantime, the first thread in this forum has some links to general advice, so that may be helpful (if you haven't already looked).
 
The medication you have been prescribed encourages the pancreas to produce more insulin so helps to lower blood glucose. As it can cause low blood glucose you should be prescribed an home testing blood glucose monitor and strips so you can check your blood glucose before you drive, if you drive and to check if you feel unwell.
Although one of the ways to lower blood glucose is to reduce carbohydrates in your diet however with that medication you should be cautious of reducing too much.
It sounds as if you have experienced weight loss, is that because you were trying to lose weight or just not eating. It might be important to your diagnosis if you lost weight suddenly without trying as that could point to Type 1 not Type 2 so check that with your doctor.
It is important to have a healthy diet based on meat, fish, cheese, eggs, dairy, vegetables, salads and fruit like berries with small portions of any high carb foods like potatoes, rice, pasta. bread, breakfast cereals.
How high your HbA1C is will determine how much work you need to do. I suspect it might be quite high if you have been prescribed that medication.
Do have a look at the Learning Zone as there is lots of information and this link may give you some ideas for modifying your diet https://lowcarbfreshwell.co.uk/
There are many factors that come into play when it comes to managing diabetes.
 
The medication you have been prescribed encourages the pancreas to produce more insulin so helps to lower blood glucose. As it can cause low blood glucose you should be prescribed an home testing blood glucose monitor and strips so you can check your blood glucose before you drive, if you drive and to check if you feel unwell.
Although one of the ways to lower blood glucose is to reduce carbohydrates in your diet however with that medication you should be cautious of reducing too much.
It sounds as if you have experienced weight loss, is that because you were trying to lose weight or just not eating. It might be important to your diagnosis if you lost weight suddenly without trying as that could point to Type 1 not Type 2 so check that with your doctor.
It is important to have a healthy diet based on meat, fish, cheese, eggs, dairy, vegetables, salads and fruit like berries with small portions of any high carb foods like potatoes, rice, pasta. bread, breakfast cereals.
How high your HbA1C is will determine how much work you need to do. I suspect it might be quite high if you have been prescribed that medication.
Do have a look at the Learning Zone as there is lots of information and this link may give you some ideas for modifying your diet https://lowcarbfreshwell.co.uk/
There are many factors that come into play when it comes to managing diabetes.
Hi Leadinglights
My HbA1C was at 89, The doctor states my weight loss was symptomatic to type 2, with the frequent urination and a combination of being in big calorie deficit due to my high levels of anxiety over what was wrong with me, suffer bad with health anxiety mainly. I'd had the symtoms, urinating, dry mouth, drinking gallons of water and juice, Thrush, and the abdominal discomfort, (The abdominal and urinating had been going on months, which I finally went to the docs about), my diet upto the symptoms was atrocious, Take aways 3 or 4 nights a week, (as i work nights) fizzy pop, sweets, chocolate, biscuits, cakes etc, I have a home monitor, I was instructed to take level readings before and after breakfast and evening meal, and I'm back at the doctors Monday, only officially diagnosed yesterday. The medication didn't seem to have an impact when i took it this morning,

Andy....
 
Hi Leadinglights
My HbA1C was at 89, The doctor states my weight loss was symptomatic to type 2, with the frequent urination and a combination of being in big calorie deficit due to my high levels of anxiety over what was wrong with me, suffer bad with health anxiety mainly. I'd had the symtoms, urinating, dry mouth, drinking gallons of water and juice, Thrush, and the abdominal discomfort, (The abdominal and urinating had been going on months, which I finally went to the docs about), my diet upto the symptoms was atrocious, Take aways 3 or 4 nights a week, (as i work nights) fizzy pop, sweets, chocolate, biscuits, cakes etc, I have a home monitor, I was instructed to take level readings before and after breakfast and evening meal, and I'm back at the doctors Monday, only officially diagnosed yesterday. The medication didn't seem to have an impact when i took it this morning,

Andy....
I'm not sure the medication works instantly, but if it is not working then that does point more towards Type 1 as do the other symptoms you describe, usually with Type 2 people struggle to lose weight.
Hopefully you will be more reassured by the doctor but it is worth having a list of questions to ask.
Hopefully you will take the dietary advise on board.
What are your before and after meal readings like?
 
I'm not sure the medication works instantly, but if it is not working then that does point more towards Type 1 as do the other symptoms you describe, usually with Type 2 people struggle to lose weight.
Hopefully you will be more reassured by the doctor but it is worth having a list of questions to ask.
Hopefully you will take the dietary advise on board.
What are your before and after meal readings like?
Yesterday at the doctors 10:30am it was 12, only had an apple that morning at 7am.
This morning it was 14.6 before breakfast, and 27.9 2hrs after, this evening it was 14.0 before dinner and 20.7 2hrs after.

Breakfast i had shredded weat with half sliced banana and a few chopped strawberries with full fat blue top milk,

Just a scotch egg for lunch,

Bird's-eye fish sensation with peas carrots and a bit of mash.
 
Yesterday at the doctors 10:30am it was 12, only had an apple that morning at 7am.
This morning it was 14.6 before breakfast, and 27.9 2hrs after, this evening it was 14.0 before dinner and 20.7 2hrs after.

Breakfast i had shredded weat with half sliced banana and a few chopped strawberries with full fat blue top milk,

Just a scotch egg for lunch,

Bird's-eye fish sensation with peas carrots and a bit of mash.
Hi Kitch

It might be worth looking at the amount of carbs that you are eating at each meal.
This could help you and your team make decisions about any adjustments needed.

Your breakfast sounds very tasty, however it is quite heavy on the carbs with the half banana. It would be worth doing a bit of calculating to work out how many carbs you are eating and then if the levels after your meal are too high you can make changes to content or portion sizes. ( I have sadly eliminated those from my diet now as (For me) they send my levels into a big spike. We are all different and need to find what works for each of us. )

With your weight loss I do wonder whether you are actually T1, which will then require different management. Gather information, and keep in touch with your HCPs. If you are in the hands of your GP Practice I would ask them to check for T1 (Gad antibody test and or c-peptide test).
 
Yesterday at the doctors 10:30am it was 12, only had an apple that morning at 7am.
This morning it was 14.6 before breakfast, and 27.9 2hrs after, this evening it was 14.0 before dinner and 20.7 2hrs after.

Breakfast i had shredded weat with half sliced banana and a few chopped strawberries with full fat blue top milk,

Just a scotch egg for lunch,

Bird's-eye fish sensation with peas carrots and a bit of mash.
It would be worth arming yourself with the book or app Carbs and Cals so you can get a better idea of the carb value of foods and that might help you make some better choices. For example peas, carrots and mash would add to quite a few carbs depending on portion size but substituting the peas for broccoli would help to reduce the carbs of the meal.
People often under estimate the portion size unless they actually weigh things. The pictures in the Carbs and Cals is a bit of an eyeopener.
The readings you are getting go suggest that you are not tolerating the carbs too well even with that medication which again points to Type 1.
 
Hi and welcome
A diagnosis of diabetes is very scary initially for most people, whatever type it is. So it is understandable why it has hit you so hard. You have been very honest in your posts about your poor eating habits before diagnosis, either not eating very much or eating high carb foods. Now is the right time for you to move towards a healthier way of life, but slowly. Doing too much too soon when cutting back on carbs, can damage your eyesight.
If it turns out you are Type 2, a lower carb diet (less than 130gm a day) is suggested. There are apps like MyFitnessPal or NutraCheck which are a great help in monitoring your intake and exercise. There are many substitutes for potatoes, rice and pasta, and low carb versions of bread. Breakfast cereals and most fruits are quite carb heavy, so that is often the meal people find hardest to adapt. I have a grill up of poached egg, mushrooms and tomatoes. Others have Greek yogurt with a few berries, nuts and seeds. There are plenty of suggestions here. I have switched to soy bean pasta, and have lots of cauliflower as rice or mash. Tonight will be soy bean spaghetti with a sauce of vegetables and chopped chicken.
If it turns out you are Type 1 there are many people here who can offer you advise. As you learn more it will become less scary - best wishes
 
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