Hi all. Deflated newbie here.

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Hello, and welcome! What sort of help do you need?
 
Welcome 🙂 Help with what @rmw ? Post your problems here in this thread. It would also be useful if you say a bit about how long you’ve been diagnosed, if you’re on any medication and what your blood sugars are.
 
rmw said:
Hi everyone.

I need help. I really do.
Please give my bio a look, it will tell you abit about me.
Any help will be such appreciated.

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Hello and welcome to the forum.
Firstly a massive congratulations on your weight loss, that's a great achievement.
You say you feel defeated about having to accept insulin! Please don't be you need what you need and if it's insulin to keep you fit and healthy then that's what you need, there is no shame in using insulin.

I do wonder if you are in fact a slow onset type1. Please ask your GP to test to see if this is the reason why your A1c hasn't come down. Do you know how many carbs you eat during the day as well?
 
Hello,
Thanks for your reply.
I really try and limit carbs but withut them totally I am very hungry.
I am worried about insulin as I know it can increase appetite and I need no help with that at all. I am hungry most of the time.
Just been diagnosed with nodular spongiform thyroid, dont know if that works against blood sugar control.
My gp surgery and diabetic team are not very approachable, which is disheartening.
R
 
I don’t know @rmw but any thyroid issue could potentially affect appetite. It would be worth asking. Would you be happy to describe an average day’s food for you? Are you getting enough fat and protein to offset the reduced carbs?
 
Diagnosed in 2016.
Did get blood glucose down to 49 way back in 2018 but since then its gone up and up.
Has anyone any suggestions that I might not have tried?
I did try a keto diet last year and my glucose didn't raise as much after meals, but the diet left me feeling really ill.
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rmw said:
Hello,
Thanks for your reply.
I really try and limit carbs but withut them totally I am very hungry.
I am worried about insulin as I know it can increase appetite and I need no help with that at all. I am hungry most of the time.
Just been diagnosed with nodular spongiform thyroid, dont know if that works against blood sugar control.
My gp surgery and diabetic team are not very approachable, which is disheartening.
R
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Hello again 🙂
The idea of insulin is to use enough to keep your blood sugars in range.
Having high blood sugars will make you feel hungry and miserable :(
Insulin will not increase your appetite unless you have to much (hypo) which causes your blood sugars to go low, a survival mode then kicks in which makes you want and need to eat to correct the low.

If you think of it logically if insulin made us all want to eat all the time then every person on insulin would then look like a telly tubby
It's just a matter of getting the balance right almost like a set of scales.
Advantages are you will feel a lot healthier and happier being able to function correctly thus enjoying life. 🙂
 
There is no need to feel hungry on a low carbohydrate diet, and that will help to reduce blood glucose.
Keto is probably too extreme for most people which is why they can't stick with it and all the work is undone.
This link may help you find a better way of trying low carb without feeling hungry. https://lowcarbfreshwell.com/
 
I'm hardly ever hungry and I do low carb. Some days I don't bother with lunch or tea.
If anything, I believe studies have shown high carb meals make you hungry.
 
Reasons people feel ill and/or hungry when reducing carbohydrates are:
1. They didn't increase the protein and fat eaten to replace calories lost in the carb reduction. Low Carb doesn't mean low Calorie - although almost everybody doing it loses weight, it isn't like a weight loss diet. In fact, if you try you can gain weight on it!
2. They didn't take enough electrolyte. Carbs hold water and electrolytes, so low carb means less electrolytes. So take additional sodium, potassium and magnesium so as to avoid the dreaded 'keto flu'.
 
Sorry to hear what a tough time you are having @rmw - despite trying hard to develop a BG-friendly menu.

Approximately how many grams of total carbohydrate (not just ‘sugars’) do you think you are eating in a day at the moment?

It is a shame that so many people with T2 seem to be given the impression that insulin is to be avoided, or comes with pre-packaged unavoidable problems. This isn’t the way the same medication is presented to people with T1. For us it’s just explained as having to manually deliver something that out bodies can no longer make. And many people with T2 only need to move to insulin then their beta cells have also declined / insulin signalling has become impaired

Hope you can find a mix of meds and menu that helps you get the BG results you are looking for.
 
Just a run through of a typical days food.
Breakfast - mushrooms in frylight, baked tomatoes, 2 scrambled eggs, 2 slices small wholemeal toast.
Lunch - crustless quiche, filled with peppers, red onions, chopped ham and usually a salad. Or a jacket potato with tuna and salad.
Evening meal - homemade spag bol, wholemeal pasta or cottage pie with mash made from potato, cauli, celeriac and veg. Or vegetable risotto and chicken
Snack are usually fruit, nuts or cheese and sometimes pickles.
I am doing the Slimming world diet and have been since Feb 22.
Rx
 
rmw said:
Just a run through of a typical days food.
Breakfast - mushrooms in frylight, baked tomatoes, 2 scrambled eggs, 2 slices small wholemeal toast.
Lunch - crustless quiche, filled with peppers, red onions, chopped ham and usually a salad. Or a jacket potato with tuna and salad.
Evening meal - homemade spag bol, wholemeal pasta or cottage pie with mash made from potato, cauli, celeriac and veg. Or vegetable risotto and chicken
Snack are usually fruit, nuts or cheese and sometimes pickles.
I am doing the Slimming world diet and have been since Feb 22.
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Thanks for sharing a typical day's food for you! It may be helpful to try and get a calculation of how many grams of carbohydrates you are consuming and seeing what swaps you can make to lower it and see if that has an impact on your HbA1c
 
rmw said:
Just a run through of a typical days food.
Breakfast - mushrooms in frylight, baked tomatoes, 2 scrambled eggs, 2 slices small wholemeal toast.
Lunch - crustless quiche, filled with peppers, red onions, chopped ham and usually a salad. Or a jacket potato with tuna and salad.
Evening meal - homemade spag bol, wholemeal pasta or cottage pie with mash made from potato, cauli, celeriac and veg. Or vegetable risotto and chicken
Snack are usually fruit, nuts or cheese and sometimes pickles.
I am doing the Slimming world diet and have been since Feb 22.
Rx
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I might well be the portion size of some of the high carb foods, like the potato, pasta, rice and the potato in the mash. Try to calculate the carbs for the portion you have and any extras like the fruit, the bread and any drinks you have to get an idea of the total amount of carbs per day.9
 
rmw said:
Just a run through of a typical days food.
Breakfast - mushrooms in frylight, baked tomatoes, 2 scrambled eggs, 2 slices small wholemeal toast.
Lunch - crustless quiche, filled with peppers, red onions, chopped ham and usually a salad. Or a jacket potato with tuna and salad.
Evening meal - homemade spag bol, wholemeal pasta or cottage pie with mash made from potato, cauli, celeriac and veg. Or vegetable risotto and chicken
Snack are usually fruit, nuts or cheese and sometimes pickles.
I am doing the Slimming world diet and have been since Feb 22.
Rx
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To me, that looks like it could be a low fat and quite a high carb diet for a Type 2.
Toast, quiche, jacket potato, pasta, some potato mash, risotto, fruit. Is that pickles, or pickle ? - as in Branston (other brands available).
 
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